England vs All Blacks
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@kiwiinmelb said in England vs All Blacks:
My take, England unlucky , not because it was incorrect but because that stuff doesn’t always get pulled up ,
But a similar type situation awarded the lions a draw against the Allblacks last year in the third test ,
And they celebrated like they had won the World Cup ,
Can’t have it both ways .
In fact, the publicity over the Farrell non penalty last week may have swayed Garces to not want to be seen giving a home town decision for a second week in a row.
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@booboo as I said, just rewatched it, sounded like Garces says 'you want me to check it' but given he is off camera and the crowd noise, he may well have initiated it...but he did just award it normally, didnt signal TMO straight off.
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@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo as I said, just rewatched it, sounded like Garces says 'you want me to check it' but given he is off camera and the crowd noise, he may well have initiated it...but he did just award it normally, didnt signal TMO straight off.
Ok.
Also wonder if he was asking yhe AR if he was asking for a check?
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The Pom rolling maul.
Is there a law issue about players joining and the ball not being transferred to the back?
Just seemed strange that the ball was being held in the middle.
I doubt there's a way to enforce but I thought there was a law about the ball being in the back.
Probably not though... it's all too complicated ( for me)
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Back from my corporate jolly to game...some thoughts having not seen any replays or TV. Long-ish post. (Skip to he last 2 paras for the incisive bit)
Twickenham a pain to get to...and into. Ticket entry barriers weren't working, RFU needs to get its act together - pretty crap really. The crowd was far more respectful to the opposition and the kickers. First time I'd been to Twickenham for a test in about 10 years, so credit to the RFU. Atmosphere was great.
Pom tactics and decision making were excellent in the first 30 minutes - crap after that. Thought Farrell had a poor game - zero variation in his game. Underhill was astonishingly good for England and was my MoM.
AB backline was poor until Crotty came on and he seemed to give a lot of solidity. Thought SBW was poor and you wonder how long he'll be in the team. England targeted DMac with the high ball but he did OK and as well as anyone else - he certainly doesn't lack guts, thats for sure. On attack he was probably the most dangerous AB back. Thought our kicking game (inc. DMac) was shite. We looked way more dangerous when keeping the ball in hand.
Retallick & Savea were immense. BBBR utterly owned the Pom lineout, ruck, maul and, well, the whole pitch. Ardie seemed to be everywhere.
Ben Kay and Ugo Monye hosted a post match analysis for the corporate clients which was excellent. No argument that Lawes was offside from them. We then had a Q&A with Itoje and Danny Care.
Itoje & Care seemed good blokes but I was surprised by the complacency in their attitude. They thought that as they had only lost by 1 point they had scored a famous victory. Astonishing attitude in many ways. Hope I never hear an AB talk like that.
All in all, a mistake-strewn game. But we dogged a win - which I sense Hansen will be happy with
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Lawes started iffside let alone moved early. Correct decision.
England will be devo, they threw everything at that
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@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Lawes started iffside let alone moved early. Correct decision.
England will be devo, they threw everything at that
And the weather dragged us down to their level. They won’t get a better opportunity to beat us.
Losing a 15-0 lead in those conditions was huge.
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How many shit games does SBW get before he's fucked off? If he was a racehorse he'd be shot
A Smith was pretty poor. Our kicking game wasn't up to scratch while England's was great.
Happy with pretty much everyone else though. Damn slippery ball.
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@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
How many shit games does SBW get before he's fucked off? If he was a racehorse he'd be shot
A Smith was pretty poor. Our kicking game wasn't up to scratch while England's was great.
Happy with pretty much everyone else though. Damn slippery ball.
Some of your best work. Outstanding even. And all so true.
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@victor-meldrew Yeah, Underhill was unbelievable and my MOTM as well. Have not really seen too much of him before but he looks to be a really special player. Certainly a lot better than Curry who didn't impress last week. It's about time England had a decent openside and it looks like they have unearthed a gem.
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That was lucky. I had a look at the stats and wrote down a few thoughts here:
https://www.thesilverfern.com/2018/11/11/phew-abs-escape-on-armistice-day/
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Sheesh with all those photos with red and white lines and yellow circles we are in great danger of becoming like Green and Gold rugby. Albeit they are pointing out Wallaby ‘injustices’ and AB ‘favouritism’, but still, it’s not a great look for the Fern....
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How much of an absolute weapon off the bench was Lawes? Huge impact.
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@mariner4life Yeah he was good. Shields a non entity, and dropped the ball. BBBR was better, and Barrett The Younger was as good IMO
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If Beauden had made the tackle Underhill then the offside would not have been checked and England would have had possession right on our line.
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That game was probably good for both teams. England should gain some belief that they can go with us while still keeping their feet on the ground given they couldn't get the win.
Likewise we should have our feet firmly on the ground with regards to the amount of work required before the RWC, whilst taking some confidence with closing out a dogged test in atrocious conditions.
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So much for my canter, but karma's a bitch.
At least England have found their openside.
In fairness he's been hiding in plain sight. For a couple of seasons now.
Great Test.
