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  • MN5M Online
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    @mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:

    How many shit games does SBW get before he's fucked off? If he was a racehorse he'd be shot

    A Smith was pretty poor. Our kicking game wasn't up to scratch while England's was great.

    Happy with pretty much everyone else though. Damn slippery ball.

    Some of your best work. Outstanding even. And all so true.

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    Yep Sonny, thanks for that offload to Ma'a in 2015, not a huge amount else except a special mention of your lovely manners.

    Again, thanks and bye

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    I thought that the whole offside thing was justice for them being offside many other times during the match. They only got called on it because it led to a try. It should have happened several times earlier.

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    @victor-meldrew Yeah, Underhill was unbelievable and my MOTM as well. Have not really seen too much of him before but he looks to be a really special player. Certainly a lot better than Curry who didn't impress last week. It's about time England had a decent openside and it looks like they have unearthed a gem.

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    That was lucky. I had a look at the stats and wrote down a few thoughts here:

    https://www.thesilverfern.com/2018/11/11/phew-abs-escape-on-armistice-day/

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    Sheesh with all those photos with red and white lines and yellow circles we are in great danger of becoming like Green and Gold rugby. Albeit they are pointing out Wallaby ‘injustices’ and AB ‘favouritism’, but still, it’s not a great look for the Fern....

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    How much of an absolute weapon off the bench was Lawes? Huge impact.

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    @mariner4life Yeah he was good. Shields a non entity, and dropped the ball. BBBR was better, and Barrett The Younger was as good IMO

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    If Beauden had made the tackle Underhill then the offside would not have been checked and England would have had possession right on our line.

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    That game was probably good for both teams. England should gain some belief that they can go with us while still keeping their feet on the ground given they couldn't get the win.

    Likewise we should have our feet firmly on the ground with regards to the amount of work required before the RWC, whilst taking some confidence with closing out a dogged test in atrocious conditions.

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    So much for my canter, but karma's a bitch.

    At least England have found their openside.

    In fairness he's been hiding in plain sight. For a couple of seasons now.

    Great Test.

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    @no-quarter said in England vs All Blacks:

    England should gain some belief that they can go with us while still keeping their feet on the ground given they couldn't get the win.

    Yeah, nah. Where is @Bones post about claiming underdog status for us? "At home", etc etc.

    England had everything in their favour, even down to the weather, and failed. Close, but no cigar.

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    On my re-watch the ABs weren't as bad as I first felt. No stress means less cursing. A Smith is well off form, both 9's need to stop box kicking until they can both get it away quick and land it in a good place. I'm sure there is a reason why the ABs continually kick to the player to allow them to counter attack, but I don't get it. But they do it so often there MUST be a reason, I would prefer the way Eng did it, box kick to turn around back three (not to compete) and long kick for the sideline. England were firing first 30 or so, but not much after that. Stats agree that ABs were all good, but we couldn't finish (again A Smith), like against the boks. McKenzie is great on attack but a bloody liability in a tight match, an unacceptable 5 TC of an even more unacceptable 20 by ABs. Start Mo'unga 10 or 15, either way, and DMAc for tired defences later thank you.

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    @machpants agree. I woke up and watched 2nd half first then first half after. If you didn't see score NZ was dominant and England offered little.

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    @98blueandgold Yeah I woke up at 430, and watched from 15-0 down with SBW just going off! Great place to start 🙂

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    @machpants I did the same, we must have been good luck.

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    @no-quarter said in England vs All Blacks:

    If Beauden had made the tackle Underhill then the offside would not have been checked and England would have had possession right on our line.

    He's a bloody legend. Reads the game better than anyone.

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    Out of curiosity I was interested to know when England last out-scored NZ in tries in a test at Twickenham. You might have thought it was in the 38-21 loss in 2012 but it wasn't (3 tries each). You have to go back to the 26-26 draw in 1997 (3 vs 2).

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    First time for ten matches we haven't scored four or more

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    @bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:

    Out of curiosity I was interested to know when England last out-scored NZ in tries in a test at Twickenham. You might have thought it was in the 38-21 loss in 2012 but it wasn't (3 tries each). You have to go back to the 26-26 draw in 1997 (3 vs 2).

    When was the last time NZ outscored England in drop goals?

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