England v South Africa
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@victor-meldrew said in England v South Africa:
Decision by Gardner on Farrell's tackle was strange to say the least, though not sure it would have made much difference as SA had blown it by then
That astonished me looking at the GIF. IF that isn't a penalty, I no longer have any idea how this game is played any more
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@98blueandgold Yep, miles behind Taylor, who deserves a nomination more than Marx. I never understand why Taylor gets so little credit up North.
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Surely the citing commissioner can look at that and issue and off field yellow?
We've seen softer hits with more arms and lower pick up yellow in super Rugby...
Just highlights the issues they have with that part of the game
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What frustrates me is that you watch these teams play the ABs and they seem to lift and play more attacking and then watching this game and the Wales/Scotland game you get about 3 minutes of combined rugby! Please, please smash the English next week 🤞
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Dire shit from both teams. Ref was a pussy. The only debate was if it was a yellow or a red. South Africa needs Faf, or any other non mediocre scrum half. Marx needs to be benched based on his display today
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@bones said in England v South Africa:
@nzzp yeah exactly, penalty all day, I thought Gardner was just trying to work out whether it was yellow or red. Guess that only applies to those wearing black...
Phil Kearns is busting out some Alanis Morrisette in his shower.
"It's a free ride, when you've already paid...".
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Italy showed more endeavour with ball in hand in the first 20 minutes of their test than either of these teams.
Horrible test to watch, but pleased England won.
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@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
Horrible test to watch, but pleased England won.
Anything to keep Comical Eddie in the job until RWC2019, perchance?
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@rustycruiser said in England v South Africa:
Dire shit from both teams.
This. The whole game just appeared slow and mistake-strewn. Bugger-all snap.
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@taniwharugby said in England v South Africa:
Surely the citing commissioner can look at that and issue and off field yellow?
We've seen softer hits with more arms and lower pick up yellow in super Rugby...
Just highlights the issues they have with that part of the game
Check this out for Farrell before ... something somtehing league background something SB dubya something.
about 17 seconds in, and slomo at 1:50 or so
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Generally, England's defence in this game was excellent. They made 86% of their tackles and stopped South Africa for offloading at all in this game. Itoje made 15 tackles, Wilson 14 and Shields 11 tackles with no misses.
However, the 7 missed tackles by Henry Slade, the four missed tackles by Jonny May and Elliott Daly's low tackle rate will all have been noted by the ABs coaching team.
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If that was a certain AB with no.12 on his jersey do you think the same decision by the ref would have been made? No fuckin' chance!
As @MiketheSnow said, SA could have had 2 penalties in that last passage of play.
I watched a full replay with an eye on England. I think we'll do them in the scrum if they start Hepburn again. Worst game I've seen Daly play at international level.
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@bovidae said in England v South Africa:
If that was a certain AB with no.12 on his jersey do you think the same decision by the ref would have been made? No fuckin' chance!
Going on previous history, I'm pretty sure SBW will test this theory next Sunday (if he makes the 23)
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The more you watch the game up in the NH the more you realise there are two sets of rules - one for the NH nad one for the SH (oh and a spare one for the Top 14) really that was a pure brain fart by both Farrell and Gardner. Farrell has form for this shit, coming from a league background.
Still can't understand why England can't play with any creativity or spark, when they get the ball they don't seem to know what to do with it. And space is the great unknown to them.
Reckon iif we can roll through the gears, are patient, minimise errors without giving away kickable penalties , and dictate the pace of the game we should be ok. Speeding the game up will be our biggest weapon, and will create space. -
@shadowtrooper you'd think Gardner would go with his instincts which are the SH rules/interpretations I expect, but as someone said above, he is likely gun shy after being thrown under the bus in the French series.
I think it warrants and off-field YC at least, in Super rugby that would have attracted a YC, and an over judicious ref, or TMO a RC.
