Japan vs All Blacks
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@sparky said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Laumape will be first-choice All Black second five for the World Cup game against Namibia
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Had there ever been so few comments after an ABs test?
I agree with both (edit the two before act) above, but thought TTT was poor for most of the first half - his passes inaccurate. Ginger boy seemed much faster getting the ball out.
Ref was an utter disgrace
Jordie needs a season with the canes to sort himself out
Has the obligatory ab pakeha Canterbury ten even played super rugby? Part of a small group with more ab time than super time, which means he'll crash and burn for the rest of his career if he follows the pattern.
England are toast, we should play mostly these second stringers, to make it fair. Another week together will help the defence too 😉
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@mrdenmore said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Has anyone had such a sudden fall from grace as Jordie Barrett?
Rodney So'oialo?
Jordie will be back. Young yet.
2nd season blues
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@kiwiinmelb said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Would Richie be an AB if Lima stayed ?
Oh yeah.
Huge step up from Lima
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@mrdenmore said in Japan vs All Blacks:
How is Bridge not in the All Blacks proper?
Because Steve stopped reading my emails....
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@mrdenmore said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Jordie’s confidence is absolutely shot. Everything he’s trying is not coming off. Last game in black surely.
At his age? Fuck we're hard markers
He'll be back
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@no-quarter said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Japan getting some pretty favourable decisions go their way.
Quoted as 100% correct
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@frank said in Japan vs All Blacks:
That one-handed touchdown by Laumape was Akira-like in its lack of respect.
Fuck him.
Last game in black surely ...
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@booboo I think he's been brought into the ABs squad too early and should have been given time to develop in SR first, like most other players. I've no doubt he'll be one of the contenders for both the RWC and the post-RWC squad. He's a puppy. Let him grow (not in height though).
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@higgins said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Yet another utter mysterious ruling sees a try that was clearly forced against Patrick Tuipolotu's chest awarded miles after the tackled player should have released it.
Actually in-goal you can hold the ball, dive on it and do pretty much anything you can't so in field.
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@nepia said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Is that Robbie Deans giving some comments?
Yes.
Why? I don't know. He us just slow to articulate. Probably good analysis but too slow to say it on tele.
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Got to be happy with that from this team.
tries from Japan can be put down to our mistakes and not poor d. We played way to hectic in our 22 and didn't execute exits which gave up possession in first half. Interesting because stats say we had no line-breaks conceded at half, only in back end of game when it opened up.
As for reserves I'll pass judgement when they play a proper test, by the time they came on game was all over the place but they'll learn from it.
I know this may seem strange to some but the guy I thought was strong was Whitelock, carried hard, cleaned and tackled, thought he was outstanding. -
Richie might be better than Beauden. Can't make my mind up.
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@frank said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Richie might be better than Beauden. Can't make my mind up.
Richie needs to carve up some Tier 1 nation's before we come to that conclusion. Making every post a winner so far and pushing Beauden hard though. Good that Beauden finally has some competition.
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@machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:
I'm pretty confused about the refs penalties for not releasing
Quoted for relevance
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Piss taking now.
Not sure why people are stressing so much about the defence. Most of these guys will probably never start another test.
Bollocks
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@billy-tell said in Japan vs All Blacks:
I have never been fully convinced by Bridge, keep having flashbacks to Scott Hamilton, but he's taking his chance with both hands here.
Also quoted for relevance! And the fact this reflects my (changing) opinion of George
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Hansen blamed Whitelock for the charge-down?
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@billy-tell said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Leave Jordie in NZ and take bridge for the rest of the tour
I think Jordie has great potential, I wouldn't be cutting him for the fun. I'd keep him in the group and work on his confidence. Wouldn't at all surprise if in 12 months time JB has been a key player for the ABs.
I'd be ditching NMS though, he's past it and probably off to Toulon anyway. He'll always have 2015, and for that we will be eternally grateful.
Agree with para 1
Re para 2: thought NMS showed he still had some go about him
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@rembrandt said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Entertaining game. Some awesome tries from both sides**. Is TTT actually Aaron Smith's clone?** Mo'unga, Laumape and North also very impressive. I can't see NMS playing for the ABs again, such a shame. Naholo and Barrett were a little off unlike NMS I don't think its terminal.
A few scratchy passes. Needs to cut those out
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Can't decide if gurning is big in Japan, or he's auditioning for Worzel Gummidge
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@sparky said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Good for the All Blacks to embrace diversity and to keep Vaea Fifita on the park for 80 minutes. It shows lazy people can be All Blacks too.
Fafita is trans?
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@machpants said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Had there ever been so few comments after an ABs test?
I agree with both (edit the two before act) above, but thought TTT was poor for most of the first half - his passes inaccurate. Ginger boy seemed much faster getting the ball out.
Ref was an utter disgrace
Jordie needs a season with the canes to sort himself out
Has the obligatory ab pakeha Canterbury ten even played super rugby? Part of a small group with more ab time than super time, which means he'll crash and burn for the rest of his career if he follows the pattern.
England are toast, we should play mostly these second stringers, to make it fair. Another week together will help the defence too 😉
Mmm. Am a fan of T-cube but he sprayed his passes tonight
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@rocky-rockbottom surely they'll have Papalii on the blind with Gibson at 7?
There were moments where Papalii looked like he had concrete feet tonight. Hopefully that can be fixed.
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Hemopo had a good game and is worth another run in Black at some point. He might edge out Patrick Tuipulotu or Pari Pari Parkinson for the RWC squad fourth lock spot.
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@act-crusader said in Japan vs All Blacks:
@mrdenmore said in Japan vs All Blacks:
How is Bridge not in the All Blacks proper?
Because Steve stopped reading my emails....
And my posts in the forum when I wrote that he was worth a look but a few Silverferners just laughed at me.
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@sparky said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Hemopo had a good game and is worth another run in Black at some point. He might edge out Patrick Tuipulotu or Pari Pari Parkinson for the RWC squad fourth lock spot.
You are kidding, aren't you? Hemopo might edge out Pat T? Surely anyone can see Hemopo adds so much more than Pat T.
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@samurai-jack Patrick Tuipulotu is in the squad for England, Ireland and Italy whereas Jackson Hemopo isn't. If AB selectors were picking a RWC squad this year they would have gone with him.
Hemopo had the better game today so will have given the selectors a lot to think about. They might worry about his size and that a possible Scott Barrett/Jackson Hemopo combination leaves them without a power lock.
Patrick Tuipulotu gave them quick off the top lineout ball before one of the tries today. They both made 7 tackles, Hemopo missed one, but Patrick Tuipulotu didn't miss any. Hemopo, at the very least, is excellent backup to Scott Barrett.
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Really enjoyed the game. I never felt good about Naholo and Jordie in the top team and I feel even more negative on them now. FFs time to move on from them and NMs, Jordie can be back but we ave way better than NMS and Naholo. George Bridge proved his point. Pleased with Hemapo , Evans and Mounga as well.
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Tuipulotu is still ahead of Hemopo and rightly so. Yes some people played better than others but look at the opposition ffs. I still like Tuipulotu coming on with 20 to go in a real test as he can bend the line against big forward packs which was shown when he came on at Loftus.
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@frank said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Richie might be better than Beauden. Can't make my mind up.
They are different ,
Richie is more of your copy book 10 ,
Beaudy is a bit more unorthodox , but a freak of nature all the same ,
ive got a feeling down the track we might see 10 Richie 15 Beauden 23 Dmac
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@african-monkey said in Japan vs All Blacks:
Tuipulotu is still ahead of Hemopo and rightly so. Yes some people played better than others but look at the opposition ffs. I still like Tuipulotu coming on with 20 to go in a real test as he can bend the line against big forward packs which was shown when he came on at Loftus.
Or drop the ball...
Seriously though Tuipulotu has come on and made some massive lineout steals in the past too.
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@bones Yeah he's dropped a couple but to be fair a lot of the time the passes have been poor that he has dropped. I remember a few on here blaming him in the last South Africa test for 'dropping' a pass where Crotty threw a bullet pass to his head where he was about half a metre away from him haha.
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I can't understand the hate on Naholo on this forum, he just can't get a break! Watching replay every kick he is leading the chase, every breakdown he is in contesting the ball and earning penalties a cple of times. Also he saves us a cple of times with his strength and ability to hold feet. I agree Bridge shld be in ABs but you watch game and Naholo is in frame.
Prime example was laumape try from Bridge kick and chase, applaud Bridge for his chase but Naholo was up there with him and won penalty contesting ball yet no mention?
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#learntotackle
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@machpants watch again the one tackle the whole game Bridge had to make in space he got stood up badly and the guy ran 40 metres, but that doesn't matter I guess cause he is sooo good??
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