Exodus
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@kruse said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum said in Exodus 2019:
@mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum are those Irish squad sizes correct? Between 60 and 69 players? Does that include the reserves side?
All the 6 teams include both the senior and academy squads as they're called. In Ireland, we don't have "reserves' as such. The PRO14 Championship is 21 rounds, the European Cup has 6 pool rounds, (plus knockouts) and there's 10-12 tests to play, so players get game time. Last season, Leinster used 55 players during the season.
At the weekend just gone, they went away to Dragons in Wales. Cullen decided to throw his kids in at the deep end, minded by Grandad Fardy. 5 first team benchers, 11 second and third choice, and 7 academy 19/20 year olds - mainly in the backline. 4 of the academy kids scored on the night in a absolute routing 59-10. The academy keeps on giving.
Never mind the dry powder, metres-gained metrics, etc, etc... THIS, this gives me the fucking fear, as an All Blacks supporter.
It really sounds like Ireland has got their shit together.Blame
Stephen Aboud, Academy Systems
Eddie O鈥橲ullivan - Player Management
Eddie Wigglesworth, Player Succession Strategy,
David Nucifora, Performance Director,
Anthony Eddy, Sevens
& Joe Schmidt, National Test Team.
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@derm-mccrum Then make a past-exodus thread.
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@stargazer said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum Then make a past-exodus thread.
It's not actually a real biggie. Don't let it stress you
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@kruse said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum said in Exodus 2019:
@mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum are those Irish squad sizes correct? Between 60 and 69 players? Does that include the reserves side?
All the 6 teams include both the senior and academy squads as they're called. In Ireland, we don't have "reserves' as such. The PRO14 Championship is 21 rounds, the European Cup has 6 pool rounds, (plus knockouts) and there's 10-12 tests to play, so players get game time. Last season, Leinster used 55 players during the season.
At the weekend just gone, they went away to Dragons in Wales. Cullen decided to throw his kids in at the deep end, minded by Grandad Fardy. 5 first team benchers, 11 second and third choice, and 7 academy 19/20 year olds - mainly in the backline. 4 of the academy kids scored on the night in a absolute routing 59-10. The academy keeps on giving.
Never mind the dry powder, metres-gained metrics, etc, etc... THIS, this gives me the fucking fear, as an All Blacks supporter.
It really sounds like Ireland has got their shit together.of course they have, and it's fucking great. It's awesome to see what is achieved when the entire system is pointed in one direction. They have also made smart decisions with regards to personnel.
Add in their geographical advantages (5 other top-tier rugby nations within shorter flight times than it would take me to get to the capital city of my state, let alone country) and it's a strong, sustainable combination that should continue to deliver positive results.
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@mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:
@kruse said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum said in Exodus 2019:
@mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum are those Irish squad sizes correct? Between 60 and 69 players? Does that include the reserves side?
All the 6 teams include both the senior and academy squads as they're called. In Ireland, we don't have "reserves' as such. The PRO14 Championship is 21 rounds, the European Cup has 6 pool rounds, (plus knockouts) and there's 10-12 tests to play, so players get game time. Last season, Leinster used 55 players during the season.
At the weekend just gone, they went away to Dragons in Wales. Cullen decided to throw his kids in at the deep end, minded by Grandad Fardy. 5 first team benchers, 11 second and third choice, and 7 academy 19/20 year olds - mainly in the backline. 4 of the academy kids scored on the night in a absolute routing 59-10. The academy keeps on giving.
Never mind the dry powder, metres-gained metrics, etc, etc... THIS, this gives me the fucking fear, as an All Blacks supporter.
It really sounds like Ireland has got their shit together.of course they have, and it's fucking great. It's awesome to see what is achieved when the entire system is pointed in one direction. They have also made smart decisions with regards to personnel.
Add in their geographical advantages (5 other top-tier rugby nations within shorter flight times than it would take me to get to the capital city of my state, let alone country) and it's a strong, sustainable combination that should continue to deliver positive results.
Wales and Scotland have started to follow suit - Wales now have about 60 in their academies and they are starting to bear fruit with more investment from WRU to come through.
Scotland have some green shoots starting but their playing pool isn't getting any bigger for now- and some of their key players are still going to England or France. Hogg the latest. -
@derm-mccrum
Perhaps because that post is in response to a post that explicitly mentions Schmidt and Gatland? A bottom of the table Pro14 club coach from another country isn't relevant to loss of NZ depth as the last Lions coach or grand slam winning coach in a thread about NZ rugby players and coaches overseas in 2019. -
@mofitzy_ said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum
Perhaps because that post is in response to a post that explicitly mentions Schmidt and Gatland? A bottom of the table Pro14 club coach from another country isn't relevant to loss of NZ depth as the last Lions coach or grand slam winning coach in a thread about NZ rugby players and coaches overseas in 2019.Ok. I've no idea what you're referring to at this point, but I think we've all moved on...
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@derm-mccrum
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@mofitzy_ said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum
Good of you to admit you are wrong.I love you too, sweetie. Xx
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Finally Ardie Savea will stay in NZ after the RWC !
Section Paloise : c'est s没r, Ardie Savea ne viendra pas
Le troisi猫me ligne des All Blacks restera en Nouvelle-Z茅lande apr猫s la prochaine Coupe du monde. Samedi dernier, nous vous annoncions que le dossier Ardie Savea 脿 la Section avait pris du plomb dans
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@jauzy019 said in Exodus 2019:
Finally Ardie Savea will stay in NZ after the RWC !
Section Paloise : c'est s没r, Ardie Savea ne viendra pas
Le troisi猫me ligne des All Blacks restera en Nouvelle-Z茅lande apr猫s la prochaine Coupe du monde. Samedi dernier, nous vous annoncions que le dossier Ardie Savea 脿 la Section avait pris du plomb dans
But you told us he was definitely leaving
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@derm-mccrum why did you change your name?
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@hooroo said in Exodus 2019:
@jegga said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum why did you change your name?
What was he?
I鈥檓 trying to remember now, he was posting under the other name at least as far back as 2015 .
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@jegga said in Exodus 2019:
@hooroo said in Exodus 2019:
@jegga said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum why did you change your name?
What was he?
I鈥檓 trying to remember now, he was posting under the other name at least as far back as 2015 .
Not Thomond79??
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@hooroo said in Exodus 2019:
@jegga said in Exodus 2019:
@hooroo said in Exodus 2019:
@jegga said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum why did you change your name?
What was he?
I鈥檓 trying to remember now, he was posting under the other name at least as far back as 2015 .
Not Thomond79??
Duluth鈥檚 got it .
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@jauzy019 said in Exodus 2019:
Finally Ardie Savea will stay in NZ after the RWC !
Section Paloise : c'est s没r, Ardie Savea ne viendra pas
Le troisi猫me ligne des All Blacks restera en Nouvelle-Z茅lande apr猫s la prochaine Coupe du monde. Samedi dernier, nous vous annoncions que le dossier Ardie Savea 脿 la Section avait pris du plomb dans
Not that I ever believe rumours spread by (French) media about players signing or not signing, but I'm eagerly awaiting the news from NZR/Hurricanes about Ardie re-signing.
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@jegga said in Exodus 2019:
@derm-mccrum why did you change your name?
Decided to use my name on this and a couple of other worthwhile fora. I use PotHale on most other fora. I was NH Fan when I first came on here in 2011.
