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    @gunner said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    Whopper was supposed to be the next big thing wasn’t he?

    He was in that stretch between 2008-11 when the selectors would pick marginal Super Rugby players and talk them up as if they were the next Lomu. They would make you think you were watching another game all these years! Guildford, Bryn Evans, Hoeata, Mackintosh...

    @crucial said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    Stretching the criteria a bit but Hayman would have probably gone on to be a centurion AB if he hung around

    His form went to pudding so quickly for Newcastle I can't imagine he would have made it had he stayed especially given how centurion Franks was on the ascendancy. Collins and to a lesser extent So'oialo were of a similar vintage and fell off pretty quickly post 2007.

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    @derm-mccrum good list although surely Tony Marsh fits the same criteria as Payne and was a better player.

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    Expected bigger this of Isitola Maka, Royce Willis, Piutau

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    @rotated Orene's 99 season was something else. I think he was only 19 then and he was shredding teams every week. I'm sure a lot of people thought he'd be an AB one day after that year.

    Carlos coming back probably didn't help his development.

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    Bruce Reihana and Roger Randle cos there were so many other good outside backs in that era.

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    @mn5 said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    Bruce Reihana and Roger Randle cos there were so many other good outside backs in that era.

    I thought the thread was about blokes with promise that could have gone further... Not blokes who played to the best of their ability but weren't a patch on those ahead of them..

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    @bones said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    @mn5 said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    Bruce Reihana and Roger Randle cos there were so many other good outside backs in that era.

    I thought the thread was about blokes with promise that could have gone further... Not blokes who played to the best of their ability but weren't a patch on those ahead of them..

    You've always gotta shoot down my posts and make me feel bad about myself.

    Surely both of them were better than Caleb Ralph though?

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    @canefan said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    I might be recollecting through my Hurricanes/Lions goggles, but I remember Filo Tiatia pressing hard for AB selection in 1999. He just missed out on the RWC squad, then missed a call up when Carlos got hurt before the tourney. I can't remember who the replacement was (I seem to recall it was a back, Auckland?), but we could have used his physicality in the semi vs France

    Reihana was the replacement player.

    Tiatia was more a no.8, and Randell was the only no.8 named in that squad. The other loosies were Kronfeld, Blowers, Robertson, Mika and Thorne. Anyone else at no.6 vs France would have helped.

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    Benji Marshall....

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    Joeli Vidiri

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    @mikedogz said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    Joeli Vidiri

    Quite a few guys could step Jonah but I'm pretty certain JV was the only one who ran over the top of him when Counties played Wellington. Fuck he was awesome.

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    @mn5 I hear Ralph can climb a rope one handed.

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    Dale Atkins.

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    @bones said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    @mn5 I hear Ralph can climb a rope one handed.

    He's my friend on FB. Can confirm.

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    @rotated Anscombe wasnt already signed up for overseas when he got picked up for the Chiefs. He played 2 years for the Chiefs. They played him at fullback cos they had Cruden at 10. A big part of him playing 10 for the U20s was his old man was the coach.

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    @kiwimurph said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    @rotated Anscombe wasnt already signed up for overseas when he got picked up for the Chiefs. He played 2 years for the Chiefs. They played him at fullback cos they had Cruden at 10. A big part of him playing 10 for the U20s was his old man was the coach.

    Same for Auckland. When Dad wasn’t involved he ended up as fullback, where was good without being great. Very good goal kicker rubbish ten.

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    Someone mentioned Bleyendaal. He won an age group WC at 10 didn't he? Seemed to be touted as the next big thing then disappeared

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    Who was that guy that could have been an amazing ABs no8? Just can't remember his name. Carl something....

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    @dice He looked really good in those few games he played at halfback.

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    @derm-mccrum said in AB "What could have been" XV:

    1. Bent

    2. McCartney

    3. Ah You

    4. Hayden Triggs

    5. Ezra Taylor

    6. Nepia Fox-Matamua

    7. Sean Reidy

    8. George Naoupu

    9. Gibson-Park

    10. Joey Carbery

    11. James Lowe

    12. Bundee Aki

    13. Jared Payne

    14. Pita Ahki

    15. Isa Nacewa

    16. Rhys Marshall

    17. Peter Borlase

    18. Nathan White

    19. A. N. Other

    20. Jake Heenan

    21. Isaac Boss

    22. Tyler Bleyendaal

    23. Ben Te’o

    Looks like an ITM cup ‘all-star’ team. Nothing more.

    Fruean, Atiga, Whopper are three guys that were there abouts, could’ve been 20+ test players and never kicked on for a range of reasons.

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