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  • No QuarterN Online
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    @kruse said in Bledisloe I:

    Okay - just started rewatching the game - and actually saw/heard that "Welcome To Country" for the first time (watched the game live at shit venue playing shit music throughout the game - no audio)...
    ... and yeah, can see why that particular one has raised a "debate". Cringeworthy - a guy not used to public speaking, with zero content other than half-arsed metadata about the Welcome-To-Country.
    But when done well... it's a harmless nod to the aboriginal culture, in the form which the aborigines have presumably agreed upon as appropriate - regardless of when it was "invented". In a country where such gestures are long overdue.
    Where some love to throw out the ubiquitous term "virtue-signalling", as usual - it can also be described as "just being fucking polite/considerate".

    I mostly agree, I think it's great that Maori culture has been integral part of the All Blacks, and the Wallabies trying to incorporate their indigenous cultures is good to see - I just don't think "welcome to country" is a great way to celebrate that culture.

    I also don't think aborigines have "agreed" to anything, I'd say someone put it forward as an idea that has been used elsewhere and the ARU ran with it. There's lots of ways to incorporate and celebrate culture, an awkward 1 - 2 minute speech is pretty shit really.

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    Analysis: The Wallabies busted 'catfish' play that changed Bledisloe Game I

    Analysis: The Wallabies busted 'catfish' play that changed Bledisloe Game I

    Moments later, Beauden Barrett would score to stretch the All Blacks lead to 19-6 and the try would be a catalyst for a Wallabies collapse. This pivotal moment changed the game, so what went so wrong for the Wallabies?

    I wish I could so easily pick up this stuff!

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    Interesting little analysis.

    The main difference i could see was how much better the AB defense was than the Chiefs. No one in Black committed to anything until the play unfolded. And most importantly they kept their line flat at all times. For the Chiefs that one guy is 2m ahead of everyone, leaving a hole no matter what he does, and then the inside defender bites hard on the lead runner, rather than sliding off.

    Yes the Wallaby set up was everything they describe, narrow, and deep. But the ABs stayed flat the whole time, and allowed the play to unfold. The scrum also meant they were numbered up, rather than marking that forward coming back on the cut, and still having 3 guys out the back to worry about, and more field.

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    @Machpants @mariner4life Yeah an interesting summation. Ironic isn't it? Given that the Aussies have traditionally been "clever" in the backs.

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    @catogrande said in Bledisloe I:

    @Machpants @mariner4life Yeah an interesting summation. Ironic isn't it? Given that the Aussies have traditionally been "clever" in the backs.

    That stereotype is as outdated as French Flair

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    @machpants the colours in the photo are a bit whack. Goodhue playing in Navy blue and the Aussies in Lemon 😄

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe I:

    @catogrande said in Bledisloe I:

    @Machpants @mariner4life Yeah an interesting summation. Ironic isn't it? Given that the Aussies have traditionally been "clever" in the backs.

    That stereotype is as outdated as French Flair

    Sacre Bleu!

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    @mariner4life check out the NH international thread 😉

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    Compare that 'back play' with some of the plays the Wallabies did in 2015. I reckon after the 2015 RWC I haven't seen too many succesful plays from the WB's, of course there is no Giteau, but I also think that Quade Cooper had his hand on some of those 2015 plays(yeah yeah he's a fluffybunny and all that but he knew how to plan and execute a set piece move).

    This is from TRC 2015 against the boks, don't hace time to find more but I remember they scored some beauties that year.

    EDIT: from 1:26 onwards

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    @sapetyvi said in Bledisloe I:

    Compare that 'back play' with some of the plays the Wallabies did in 2015. I reckon after the 2015 RWC I haven't seen too many succesful plays from the WB's, of course there is no Giteau, but I also think that Quade Cooper had his hand on some of those 2015 plays(yeah yeah he's a fluffybunny and all that but he knew how to plan and execute a set piece move).

    This is from TRC 2015 against the boks, don't hace time to find more but I remember they scored some beauties that year.

    Both of the first two Wallaby tries there were using that same move as discussed in the article above but with the inside runner hitting the ball. Both times they only just got to the tryline in a covering tackle from the Bok 7.
    Executing the late wrap from the blindside runner needs a bit more precision but can result in a break that a flanker will not able to get to.
    Not so much better plays from the 2015 team but better execution from better players.

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    @machpants said in Bledisloe I:

    Analysis: The Wallabies busted 'catfish' play that changed Bledisloe Game I

    Analysis: The Wallabies busted 'catfish' play that changed Bledisloe Game I

    Moments later, Beauden Barrett would score to stretch the All Blacks lead to 19-6 and the try would be a catalyst for a Wallabies collapse. This pivotal moment changed the game, so what went so wrong for the Wallabies?

    I wish I could so easily pick up this stuff!

    I think its great how our FB takes the time to write these articles in his spare time. Not much happens in accounts I suppose.

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