Hurricanes 2019 Discussion
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Yeah i'd say they would start the season with 11. Lam 14. Aso 15. Barrett,
but wouldn't be suprised if Plumtree went more conservative through the playoffs (if they make it) and move Barrett to 12, with 11. Lam/Rayasi 14. Aso 15. Marshall. Milner Skudder could slot in there aswell if he finds his electric old self. -
Did Laumape take a shit in your weetbix?
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@gt12 said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
Did Laumape take a shit in your weetbix?
I'm struggling to comprehend how it's conservative to move a player to a position they've very rarely (if at all) played in SR, replace him with someone who's never been an AB and drop an AB.
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@Bones @gt12 Personally I hope J Barrett starts the season at 12 but Laumape deserves the first crack after a solid season with the All Blacks.
Yes Laumape is a punishing runner and can break a game open by himself but does he have the capability to tactically win a championship and do it against teams like the Crusaders? To me he doesn't and I think J Barrett, with his size, big boot, flat accurate passing ability and that cool, calm and collected demeanor is a better long term inside midfield candidate and could really unleash those Hurricanes weapons like Aso, Rayasi and Lam, something that the Beauden + Laumape combo have failed to do for two years now against stiff competition in the late stages of the competition.
Yes the tight five are to blame aswell but like Hansen said here
Beauden was probably held back by Laumape's lack of decision making and play-making ability where it really mattered.
So yeah if the Canes are serious about winning the title then my backline would probably look something like this: 9. Perenara 10. B Barrett 11. Rayasi 12. J Barrett 13. Proctor 14. Aso 15. Marshall with the likes of Laumape + Milner Skudder coming on late to break the game open.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
…... I think J Barrett, with his …...cool, calm and collected demenour …
You mean this cool, calm collected demeanour?
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@Canes4life sure, that's your opinion, but it in no way explains Plumtree being conservative by being slightly unorthodox.
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@Crucial His mistake was passing it to a Blues player.
The problem with Barrett is that he hasn't yet played in his most favoured position. He's said that he wants to play there and all the experts including Robertson, Hansen, Smith (funnily all Cantabs) have mentioned through various channels that 12 is most likely his long term position. Just a pain that a quality player like Laumape is preventing him from actually slotting in and getting experience.
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@Bones It's not unorthodox if 12 is his favoured position. J Barrett played age grade and provincial for Canterbury at 12 and showed his class - all I'm asking is that he gets a crack there for the Canes as I think it will be better for the team moving forward. Simple.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@Crucial His mistake was passing it to a Blues player.
I think you'll find he passed it to the ground (in a cool calm manner of course)
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@Bones It's not unorthodox if 12 is his favoured position. J Barrett played age grade and provincial for Canterbury at 12 and showed his class - all I'm asking is that he gets a crack there for the Canes as I think it will be better for the team moving forward. Simple.
Sure, makes sense. Bit like being conservative and playing Cullen at centre.
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@Crucial If he was playing 12 this would never have eventuated.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@Crucial If he was playing 12 this would never have eventuated.
So the plan is to hide him at 12 so he has less time to make dumb decisions and BB can skip pass him straight to Goodhue?
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@Bones playing the best Fullback in the world at centre in a World Cup is stupidity, I agree.
Playing an age grade 12 at 12 in Super Rugby doesn't make sense to you - you young man are a funny fella. Your statement is the only thing not making sense.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@Bones playing the best Fullback in the world at centre in a World Cup is stupidity, I agree.
Playing an age grade 12 at 12 in Super Rugby doesn't make sense to you - you young man are a funny fella. Your statement is the only thing not making sense.
I don't think you know the meaning of conservative.
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@Canes4life joking aside, a player's age grade position is not always their best when they go up levels.
Different levels of game require different play. Kahui is a similar example. He was even a very classy centre at Super level yet the ABs were reluctant to use him there saying he was more suited in tests on the wing.
As for JB wanting to play 12 at Super level, he should have picked a better employer. Chiefs would run a JB/ALB combo. Highlanders would gladly accommodate him there as well -
@Bones Moving J Barrett to 12 is automatically more conservative than having Laumape there. Not rocket science. J Barrett plays a safer game (apart from that donkey pass against the Safas) compared to Laumape's destructive style and i'm sure he could create a special combo with his bro. If the Canes go with Laumape then so be it but i'd like to see JB in there at some point.
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@Bones said
I don't think you know the meaning of conservative.
@Canes4life said
@Bones Moving J Barrett to 12 is automatically more conservative than having Laumape there.
@Bones - confirmed correct.
