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    This photo gives an idea of which players without a full contract were training with the Canes during the first part of preseason.

    2018 Surf To Peak Champion this morning was Richard Judd, so he's still there.

    I also spot Devan Flanders and Danny Toala. On other photos I've also seen Kianu Kereru-Symes. Possibly also Lincoln McClutchie, although I haven't seen photos of him during training, but he was in Wellington with Toala.
    Peter U-J is also still there, despite not getting a new contract.

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    @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

    This photo gives an idea of which players without a full contract were training with the Canes during the first part of preseason.

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    It also raises the question as to who is actually paying the uncontracted players for their services as I know of at least one instance of a player being denied the right to play in the NPC as an amateur a couple of years back.

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    @Stargazer

    Richard Judd was named in the original squad.

    Players that weren't named in the original squad but have been spotted in photos have been:

    Naitoa Ah Koui - Wellington Lock
    Xavier Numia - Wellington Prop
    Taine Plumtree - Wellington Lock
    Ben Power - Hawkes Bay Hooker
    Danny Toala - Hawkes Bay Fullback
    Teariki Ben Nicholas - Wellington No 8
    Devan Flanders - Hawkes Bay No 8
    Kianu Keruru-Symes - Hawkes Bay Hooker
    Carlos Price - Wellington Halfback
    Malo Tuitama - Wellington Wing
    Peter Umaga Jensen - Wellington Utility (was only left out of original squad naming because of injury aparantly)

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    Peter Umaga-Jensen has been very unlucky with injuries. He was named in the 2017 Hurricanes squad but was replaced before Christmas 2016 due to injury.

    Having those non-contracted players training in the environment before Christmas is a good idea and probably just standard now, almost like wider-training group members.

    Before Christmas 2017 the Chiefs had a non-contracted guy called Karl Tu'inukuafe training with them ...

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    Ben Nicholas : this is good news. He was the standout player for the Wellington Lions this year. I just could not understand why he wasn't offered a contract.

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    @cgrant said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

    Ben Nicholas : this is good news. He was the standout player for the Wellington Lions this year. I just could not understand why he wasn't offered a contract.

    You are limited to 37 (or is it 39) contracted players so you can't pick 'em all, especially if "lesser" players are on two year contracts.
    Hurricanes Loose Forwards for 2019
    Heiden Bedwell-Curtis
    James Blackwell (Loosie/Lock)
    Gareth Evans
    Vaea Fifita
    Sam Henwood
    Du Plessis Kirifi
    Reed Prinsep
    Ardie Savea

    Frankly, I'd be happy if they signed him up and ditched one of those first five eight guys in favour of an extra loosie (where there are usually big numbers of injury unavailabilities) as one of the first fives must be counting his blessings to be offered a Super Rugby contract.

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    @Canes4life I was about to complain that they've got the wrong Hawkes Bay hooker there but I see they have Kereru-Symes as well as Power.

    Do you know which of them are on development contracts (aside from Flanders)?

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    @Nepia I think those on development contracts would be Numia, Umaga Jensen, Flanders, Keruru-Symes, Price, Ben Nicholas

    Guys like Ah Koui, Plumtree, Power, Toala probably a bit green for Super level just yet.

    Also saw Chase Tiatia in one of the photos.

    Visit this facebook page for more images of pre season. https://www.facebook.com/adrenalinforestNZ/

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    https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/squad/current-squad/

    Page has been updated I think

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    @Machpants Not all players are included yet; I count 35. James Marshall is an example of a player missing on that page. Interesting to see Jordie Barrett listed as a second five-eighth.

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    @Canes4life Toala is just as green as Flanders and Kereu-Symes. All born in 1999, one year out of school and made their M10 Cup debut this year.

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    @Stargazer Flanders is in that development section because I know he is on a dev contract, doesn't mean he isn't green aswell. I don't think he will play unless we really need him.

    In regards to Barrett being listed as a 12 - great news, the Canes need to play him there if we are serious about winning the title. Yes Laumape is a one man demo man, but when it comes to finals footy, having more play makers on the field the better off we will be I.e. B Barrett at 10, J Barrett at 12 and Marshall at 15 with guys like Proctor, Aso and Milner Skudder to add the x factor. Having Laumape in the finals doesn't work as the defensive system by a team like the Crusaders is just too good, especially down in that swamp they call AMI.

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    @Canes4life dunno why you’re mentioning milner skudder and winning the title in the same sentence

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    @Yeahtheboys said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

    @Canes4life dunno why you’re mentioning milner skudder and winning the title in the same sentence

    Just be thankful he's not jizzing over Ardie Savea for once. Ironic given the year he's had....

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    @MN5 Ardie is the fcking man. 😆 #bestAB2018

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    Ardie? The guy that’s worse than Sam cane?

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    @Yeahtheboys Ardie is hitting his prime and it is obvious to anyone with half a rugby brain that he is the future. Cane is old news pal.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

    @Yeahtheboys Ardie is hitting his prime and it is obvious to anyone with half a rugby brain that he is the future. Cane is old news pal.

    You typify your point superbly. Well done, I pissed myself.

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    The irony in your statement when @Yeahtheboys provides such a compelling argument in the first place.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:

    The irony in your statement when @Yeahtheboys provides such a compelling argument in the first place.

    Yeah but @Canes4life you have a history of going completely rabid and feral if anyone has a go at your boy Ardie. I'm just surprised we haven't heard from you sooner when he was going so well. Did you not pay your broadband bill ?

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