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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by
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    @bones Frizell's selection isn't any worse than TTT's really. Both projects.

    Todd is going to Japan and was largely to completely unavailable. Bad timing by him since for the first time in his career he had an opening to grab top spot.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    I'm mostly fine with the squad. NMS and Wise are there as our right wing options are pretty dire at the moment. Hoping Alaimalo will fill that spot but stil too early for him.

    Akira non selection continues to baffle, pretty frustrating given how ordinary our loosies look.

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    @Chris-B @akan004 good point I'd completely forgotten.

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    Surely Todd would have asked Hansen if he was in their plans before he signed in Japan. I was under the impression that Hansen said something to that effect when it was first announced. Could be wrong.

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    @frank said in TRC squad:

    No Akira, no surprise.

    Hemopo leapfrogs Fifita

    NMS retains spot.

    The Tongan 'special athlete' reserve 6 for the Highlanders gets in.

    It'll be good to see the back of Harris once Dane Coles is fully fit.

    No surprise but still pisses me off

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    The mishandling of Akira reminds me of the story about Ali Williams selection. Henry picked him and Hansen, as the forwards coach, didn’t want him.

    Henry Overuled him and Hansen’s response was well I better make him a good player then.

    Everyone can see Akiras potential (shown on the field, not phantom potential), shame the coaches dont take the same approach and do some, you know, coaching to fill in Tana and Jackson’s short comings.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @tim said in TRC squad:

    NMS is a shocker.

    Yeah it is. And kind of shame that it is. Will always be special for scoring in an RWC Final.

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    @pukunui said in TRC squad:

    Surely Todd would have asked Hansen if he was in their plans before he signed in Japan. I was under the impression that Hansen said something to that effect when it was first announced. Could be wrong.

    Yeah I seem to remember it was another - 'yes, we know what Todd offers', he's not going to miss out on RWC by missing RC. Go and make a wodge of cash with our blessing.

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    #148

    Seems it was flagged around the traps that Fifita would be released to Mitre 10 to play himself back into form. Meanwhile TWM get more of a chance to assess the potential of Clan 5 1/2s.
    Starting to feel we're a bit vulnerable at tighthead. Owen Franks has been pretty close to top scrummager in World rugby over last 10 years and will leave huge hole. Laulala seems to have excellent technique, and one can only hope his shocking run of injuries comes to an end. JTA is so so scrum time, and not clear who next best tighthead specialist is. I like Ofa as a utility, but less convinced about him against knarly operators. At LH Moody/Hames/Karl T/Perry seems a good lineup.
    Backs entirely predictable. Hope NMS can recapture some of that stepping brilliance of a few years ago.
    I do hope they've a plan for Akira, as he's got the makings of a world class 8/6.

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    @pakman Sorry, TWM?

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    @rapido said in TRC squad:

    @rocky-rockbottom said in TRC squad:

    well, great, yeah that's just fucken great. Luke Shartlock as backup #8. So dynamic. So just..... there. "But he can tackle!" Yeah so they keep fucken telling me. Tackle? Akira doesnt even need to bother grounding the fluffybunnies when he's a one-man held-up maul turnover ball vortex of death for any prick that goes near him. Yeah there's your fucken tackle. fluffybunny. We now have the fucken ball. Or didnt you want it coach?

    "Umm, we want you to work on things. You have some work-ons."

    What, like being completely ineffectual ball in hand, and letting the opposition keep the fucken ball?

    fluffybunnies.

    Hansen's order for next cabs off the rank backup to Read:

    • Luke Shartlock
    • 10-minute cameo superstar Dick Frizzle can probably do it,
    • HemopoTrialKaino
    • FFSFifitafailedTrialKainoRecall
    • George Whitelock
    • any other Whitelock
    • any another Barrett.
    • what's Mex up to these days?
    • daylight
    • fuck do we have to?
    • Peter Saili
    • even more daylight
    • any man, woman or child in Canterbury
    • Akira Ioane

    List is missing some Kurt Sherlock.

    @rapido said in TRC squad:

    @rocky-rockbottom said in TRC squad:

    well, great, yeah that's just fucken great. Luke Shartlock as backup #8. So dynamic. So just..... there. "But he can tackle!" Yeah so they keep fucken telling me. Tackle? Akira doesnt even need to bother grounding the fluffybunnies when he's a one-man held-up maul turnover ball vortex of death for any prick that goes near him. Yeah there's your fucken tackle. fluffybunny. We now have the fucken ball. Or didnt you want it coach?

    "Umm, we want you to work on things. You have some work-ons."

    What, like being completely ineffectual ball in hand, and letting the opposition keep the fucken ball?

    fluffybunnies.

    Hansen's order for next cabs off the rank backup to Read:

    • Luke Shartlock
    • 10-minute cameo superstar Dick Frizzle can probably do it,
    • HemopoTrialKaino
    • FFSFifitafailedTrialKainoRecall
    • George Whitelock
    • any other Whitelock
    • any another Barrett.
    • what's Mex up to these days?
    • daylight
    • fuck do we have to?
    • Peter Saili
    • even more daylight
    • any man, woman or child in Canterbury
    • Akira Ioane

    List is missing some Kurt Sherlock.

    Didn't he play 12?

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #151

    @stargazer said in TRC squad:

    @hooroo No, he was a mixed bag in the June series. The only real 10 in the squad needs game time.

    What's a man an got to do?

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    @stargazer said in TRC squad:

    @mariner4life Ffs, no Barrett starting, and when needed, shifting him to fullback and bringing on Mo'unga at 10 (wearing the 22 jersey).

    Why not keep the best 10 starting and playing the whole 80?

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    wrote on last edited by Frank
    #153

    I really don't get why Akira isn't given a chance. I really can't.

    Frizzell has done sweet fuck all year all but is picked on potential. He has a ton of
    work-ons. Whitelock is busy with fuck-all impact and virtually no upside from where he is at now.

    However, Akira actually played bloody well in a shit side for the Super rugby tournament and still has huge upside.

    Is it really beyond the coaches to coach him a little when in camp?????

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #154

    @stargazer said in TRC squad:

    @pakman Sorry, TWM?

    The Wise Men

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  • BonesB Offline
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    #155

    Isn't Moli a tighthead? Thought he looked pretty promising last year. Looks a brutal hitter in attack and defence.

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    @frank said in TRC squad:

    I really don't get why Akira isn't given a chance. I really can't.

    Frizzell has done sweet fuck all year all but is picked on potential. He has ton of work-ons. Whitelock is busy with fuck-all impact and virtually no upside from where he is at now.

    However, Akira actually played bloody well in a shit side for the Super rugby tournament and still has huge upside.

    Is it really beyond the coaches to coach him a little when in camp?????

    What this guy said. Try coaching you bastards. Stop relying on super rugby coaches to do it for you.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Frank on last edited by
    #157

    @frank said in TRC squad:

    I really don't get why Akira isn't given a chance. I really can't.

    Frizzell has done sweet fuck all year all but is picked on potential. He has ton of work-ons. Whitelock is busy with fuck-all impact and virtually no upside from where he is at now.

    However, Akira actually played bloody well in a shit side for the Super rugby tournament and still has huge upside.

    Is it really beyond the coaches to coach him a little when in camp?????

    I think I can understand the reasoning...

    • They see Akira as an 8 only.

    • If Reid plays, there is no point in carrying Akira around in the squad when he won't make the 23

    • LW is in the squad as backup because, despite being limited, he has proven that he can play test rugby at an adequate level. Akira is a massive unknown to deputise, especially when there has been need in the 6 and 7 jerseys to cover.

    • They know that LW won't improve much from where he is but Akira has huge potential.

    • They can develop Akira better through allowing him to play rather than just train

    • By not selecting Akira without him reaching certain playing targets they can see how he responds to those demands.

    • I would guess that if Akira played a position that was not blocked by the captain he would have had game time by now.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial I don't see how Akira develops playing Mitre10 rather than in the All Blacks environment. Luke Whitelock is adequate at best, so why wouldn't you see if Akira can have the same or better impact? Particularly given his standout efforts against Super Rugby opposition and the Lions?

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    @antipodean said in TRC squad:

    @crucial I don't see how Akira develops playing Mitre10 rather than in the All Blacks environment. Luke Whitelock is adequate at best, so why wouldn't you see if Akira can have the same or better impact? Particularly given his standout efforts against Super Rugby opposition and the Lions?

    I'm not taking their side, just trying to understand their possible logic.

    As far as developing goes, he isn't the only player with instructions to test 'work ons' at NPC level. My guess is that he has been told to go and make dominant tackles.

    I just think they have a plan for Akira and are following it. He has been with them in camp a lot and they seem very happy to have him there.

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