Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF
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@kiwimurph bro, you can discount anything like that when done by a Barrett, those fellas are gods and do anything better than anyone else!
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@stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@kirwan Yes, in my opinon and that of the All Blacks selectors. Taufua played at 8 before the June break and was massive until then. It was only after not playing for weeks due to injury and being moved to 6 that he wasn't as strong as before, although not half as bad as some people want to believe. For example, did anyone notice how he ran through Shields last night?
I’d guess they have a line through his name for covering six, which will reduce his squad value dramatically.
Watching players scoot past him from scrums, he might as well not be there.
And it’s not like the AB selectors aren’t wrong sometimes or take a punt sometimes. Look at Fifita.
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@stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
For example, did anyone notice how he ran through Shields last night?
We're setting the bar that low?
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@antipodean Just one example.
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@stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@kiwimurph Yep indeed, but it is funny that some people on here only look at that last part, and not at the first, when talking about some players.
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Those glasses are twice as large as they need to be.
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@cyclops said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@chris-b yeah the canes game plan was puzzling, kicking for one, but even with the saders mid-field is usually pretty tough to crack, Laumape barely ran at it with any venom to test it last night
It looked even more puzzling because when they final had someone (Savea I think) hit it up in midfield he broke the line and made a good 20-30 metres. But then they never tried it again. It felt a bit like the 'canes had out-thought themselves, trying to double bluff the crusaders and hoping that Laumape would draw defenders in by reputation creating opportunities elsewhere, and then for whatever reason didn't switch up when that wasn't working.
I'm still confused about the application of the rules for Barrett's almost-try. I get that because the ref stopped play the restart is a scrum, but surely the ball was still live after it was placed, so the 'turnover' (i..e Bridge picking up the ball after Barrett placed it) was good so it should have been a Crusader's feed?
Probably a Canes penalty as the player picking it up didn't come through the gate
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@pukunui said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@pukunui said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
Two things.
- Has a deliberate knock down really jumped from a penalty to an automatic yellow card as the commentators seem to keep suggesting? Or are they talking shit again. Either way im sick of these things. Turning me off the game big time.
This is what the lawyer, who defends cited players before the WR and SANZAAR judiciary has to say about that:
Fantastic. That is exactly what i wanted to see. It has been creeping into the commentary more and more. IMO that law's worth is debatable in the first place when it is a penalty only. To have constant calls for automatic yellow on top gives me the shits.
I think the fern's favourite Justin can be blamed for the way this is being dealt with now. He went on and on about it a couple of seasons ago.
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@gt12 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
At least last night's game eases the AB midfield 'logjam' with Laumape having by far his worst game of the season. No pressure to select him now.
Agreed. His defense was woeful at times - it’s a real shame because, on attack, I think he has the tools to be awesome at the next level. On defense though, he looks a liability right now.
I would prefer to see Aso (best position looks to be 12 and he's too good not to start) starting at 12 next year with Laumape as an impact player. At this stage he's too one dimensional. If a team defends well Laumape is ordinary
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@shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
Laumape reminds me of Sam Tuitupou in many ways. Similarly limited but good enough at what he does well to please people when he’s on.
Sammy T moved well laterally on defence. Laumape can hit hard in the tackle like Tuitupou but struggles with an all round defensive game.
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I know some arent fans of Phil Gifford, but good interview with Darcy on RS where they talk Razor and Crusaders
Definitely some interesting bits in there about Razor!
starts about 8 mins
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2018.07.30-17.00.00-S.mp3http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2018.07.30-17.15.00-S.mp3
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@winger said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@gt12 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
At least last night's game eases the AB midfield 'logjam' with Laumape having by far his worst game of the season. No pressure to select him now.
Agreed. His defense was woeful at times - it’s a real shame because, on attack, I think he has the tools to be awesome at the next level. On defense though, he looks a liability right now.
I would prefer to see Aso (best position looks to be 12 and he's too good not to start) starting at 12 next year with Laumape as an impact player. At this stage he's too one dimensional. If a team defends well Laumape is ordinary
Aso is largely invisible when he's played 12. He had no impact at all when he played there at NPC level. He's got gas and it's best used in the outside channels, similar to Rieko.
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@act-crusader said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
Laumape reminds me of Sam Tuitupou in many ways. Similarly limited but good enough at what he does well to please people when he’s on.
Sammy T moved well laterally on defence. Laumape can hit hard in the tackle like Tuitupou but struggles with an all round defensive game.
Laumape's midfield partner was even worse on defense. Jordie missed a fat 7 tackles against the Crusaders.
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@dice 12/13 are tough positions to defend, and often it is better as a combination builds rather than 1 being a good defender and the other poor, which makes it all the more odd when coaches choose to slot someone in there when they not only havent been playing there to build a combination, but when it isnt thier usual position.
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@dice said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@act-crusader said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
Laumape reminds me of Sam Tuitupou in many ways. Similarly limited but good enough at what he does well to please people when he’s on.
Sammy T moved well laterally on defence. Laumape can hit hard in the tackle like Tuitupou but struggles with an all round defensive game.
Laumape's midfield partner was even worse on defense. Jordie missed a fat 7 tackles against the Crusaders.
He needs to chat to Sam W or Brodie about tackling technique as a giraffe. He often goes too high and risks a penalty or is easily stepped/bumped off. He's young so will learn but it's something he should be focusing on right now.
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@dice said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@winger said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@gt12 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@shark said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
At least last night's game eases the AB midfield 'logjam' with Laumape having by far his worst game of the season. No pressure to select him now.
Agreed. His defense was woeful at times - it’s a real shame because, on attack, I think he has the tools to be awesome at the next level. On defense though, he looks a liability right now.
I would prefer to see Aso (best position looks to be 12 and he's too good not to start) starting at 12 next year with Laumape as an impact player. At this stage he's too one dimensional. If a team defends well Laumape is ordinary
Aso is largely invisible when he's played 12. He had no impact at all when he played there at NPC level. He's got gas and it's best used in the outside channels, similar to Rieko.
He was outstanding when he started one game at 12 for the Canes.But like all players they need time to find their feet in a new position. Hes not a center though so 2nd or wing
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@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
@dice 12/13 are tough positions to defend, and often it is better as a combination builds rather than 1 being a good defender and the other poor, which makes it all the more odd when coaches choose to slot someone in there when they not only havent been playing there to build a combination, but when it isnt thier usual position.
Jordie isn't a center yet. Goosen should have started there (his defense is usually a strong point) with Jordie at FB but once poor selecting / coaching.
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@mimic said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:
I must admit, after watching this game, I believe Richie is the answer to the rush defence.
His option taking and passing in tight spaces were brilliant.
Using that game as the complete sample size, I would have him as the ABs starting 10.
BB is a bit of an enigma. Maybe he suits test rugby better than Super somehow.
If Mounga can play like that most of the time and also do so when given a shot in black he would be our best 10.
I could make the picture smaller ...
