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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    Billy Vunipola refractures his arm and is on his way home. Poor bastard.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44511409

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @bones Dunno. Never met him. Mate of mine is a long-time Wasps member who has on a couple of occasions when Harlequins played them. Said he was a pretty decent bloke.

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    @catogrande said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    Oh and by the way it is the RFU.

    Of course. My bad.

    Stands for Rugby Fucked Up doesn't it?

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    @crucial said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @catogrande said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    Oh and by the way it is the RFU.

    Of course. My bad.

    Stands for Rugby Fucked Up doesn't it?

    Initially it was the Rugby Football Union but over the years that has morphed into many things. Currently you appear to be correct.

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    @catogrande said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @crucial said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @catogrande said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    Oh and by the way it is the RFU.

    Of course. My bad.

    Stands for Rugby Fucked Up doesn't it?

    Initially it was the Rugby Football Union but over the years that has morphed into many things. Currently you appear to be correct.

    There is a good case for the ERFU still.
    Eddie’s Rugby Fuck Up.

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    @victor-meldrew mate the media are a bunch of snow flakes that can go and blow one. Youngs was pissed off, I don't blame him I would have been too, have some media arse say go speak to skysports they want a comment. They got one tough shit if they didn''t like it. He didnt feel like giving the stock standard PC media drivel.

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    @mikethesnow The savour has fallen he's turning into the new Andrew Sheridan

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    @crucial said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    Eddie’s Rugby Fuck Up.

    Well the expression "he dropped the ball" regarding the Shields selection would be appropriate.

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    @bones said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @victor-meldrew post game interviews are after the whistle right? 😊

    Some of his best work.

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    @wreck-diver said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @victor-meldrew mate the media are a bunch of snow flakes that can go and blow one. Youngs was pissed off, I don't blame him I would have been too, have some media arse say go speak to skysports they want a comment. They got one tough shit if they didn''t like it. He didnt feel like giving the stock standard PC media drivel.

    He should ask himself one question: how is his salary funded?

    It was rude and arrogant.

    It's another part of his job he failed at on the weekend.

    :::

    Spoiler Text

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    @snowy said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @crucial said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    Eddie’s Rugby Fuck Up.

    Well the expression "he dropped the ball" regarding the Shields selection would be appropriate.

    This is an underrated Dad joke. Well done.

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    @no-quarter Lame. I know, and I'm not even a Dad.

    Was trying to come up with something about Eddie needing something to spread his Marmite on but just can't quite get it right (even that sounds seriously wrong).

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    Has the RFU still got Lancaster's number?

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    @mikethesnow said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    Has the RFU still got Lancaster's number?

    If the damage is as bad as it looks on the surface bringing in someone new without the option of also changing a huge amount of the personnel won't work at all.
    These guys haven't just lost confidence in Eddie's plans they have lost confidence in themselves.
    The post match stuff isn't just 'we are hurting' it is frustration in themselves, worry, having to deal with not being as good as you thought you were etc
    IMO a new coach would also have to stamp a new regime in place very quickly.
    The possible saving grace is that Eddie's style is very 'hard' and someone new could go the other way and try to make trainings and squad work 'fun' to refresh things.

    The RFU have made a statement of support that was even shorter than a Ben Youngs interview.

    BTW: the reason the BY interview was rude was that he walked of while still talking. Think of when someone tries that move on you. Being a pro sportsperson also means sometimes gritting your teeth and facing up. He could have said no more than he did but finished it by looking at the presenter in the eye and saying 'that's all I have at the moment sorry'

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    Also, in other news, both Vunipolas are out of the next test.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @crucial said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @mikethesnow said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    Has the RFU still got Lancaster's number?

    If the damage is as bad as it looks on the surface bringing in someone new without the option of also changing a huge amount of the personnel won't work at all.
    These guys haven't just lost confidence in Eddie's plans they have lost confidence in themselves.
    The post match stuff isn't just 'we are hurting' it is frustration in themselves, worry, having to deal with not being as good as you thought you were etc
    IMO a new coach would also have to stamp a new regime in place very quickly.
    The possible saving grace is that Eddie's style is very 'hard' and someone new could go the other way and try to make trainings and squad work 'fun' to refresh things.

    The RFU have made a statement of support that was even shorter than a Ben Youngs interview.

    BTW: the reason the BY interview was rude was that he walked of while still talking. Think of when someone tries that move on you. Being a pro sportsperson also means sometimes gritting your teeth and facing up. He could have said no more than he did but finished it by looking at the presenter in the eye and saying 'that's all I have at the moment sorry'

    I was being rather facetious

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @mikethesnow said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @crucial said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @mikethesnow said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    Has the RFU still got Lancaster's number?

    If the damage is as bad as it looks on the surface bringing in someone new without the option of also changing a huge amount of the personnel won't work at all.
    These guys haven't just lost confidence in Eddie's plans they have lost confidence in themselves.
    The post match stuff isn't just 'we are hurting' it is frustration in themselves, worry, having to deal with not being as good as you thought you were etc
    IMO a new coach would also have to stamp a new regime in place very quickly.
    The possible saving grace is that Eddie's style is very 'hard' and someone new could go the other way and try to make trainings and squad work 'fun' to refresh things.

    The RFU have made a statement of support that was even shorter than a Ben Youngs interview.

    BTW: the reason the BY interview was rude was that he walked of while still talking. Think of when someone tries that move on you. Being a pro sportsperson also means sometimes gritting your teeth and facing up. He could have said no more than he did but finished it by looking at the presenter in the eye and saying 'that's all I have at the moment sorry'

    I was being rather facetious

    I know, but with the RFU nothing would be a surprise. Lancaster is actually a very good coach but his time at the helm showcased just what I was saying. Unless you come in at a time of major personnel change the underlying issues are very difficult to wipe away.
    We have seen this happen time and time again.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @mikethesnow said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @crucial said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    @mikethesnow said in Springboks v England - Test #2:

    Has the RFU still got Lancaster's number?

    If the damage is as bad as it looks on the surface bringing in someone new without the option of also changing a huge amount of the personnel won't work at all.
    These guys haven't just lost confidence in Eddie's plans they have lost confidence in themselves.
    The post match stuff isn't just 'we are hurting' it is frustration in themselves, worry, having to deal with not being as good as you thought you were etc
    IMO a new coach would also have to stamp a new regime in place very quickly.
    The possible saving grace is that Eddie's style is very 'hard' and someone new could go the other way and try to make trainings and squad work 'fun' to refresh things.

    The RFU have made a statement of support that was even shorter than a Ben Youngs interview.

    BTW: the reason the BY interview was rude was that he walked of while still talking. Think of when someone tries that move on you. Being a pro sportsperson also means sometimes gritting your teeth and facing up. He could have said no more than he did but finished it by looking at the presenter in the eye and saying 'that's all I have at the moment sorry'

    I was being rather facetious

    I know, but with the RFU nothing would be a surprise. Lancaster is actually a very good coach but his time at the helm showcased just what I was saying. Unless you come in at a time of major personnel change the underlying issues are very difficult to wipe away.
    We have seen this happen time and time again.

    True that

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    The RFU have today given Eddie Jones their full backing.

    That normally means he'll be gone in 3-4 weeks...

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    They are stuck with Eddie until the next WC, that is 100% guaranteed.

    I say stuck with, but I think he's a good coach and will see them fine. They have looked a little toothless of late, but I don't think (with the exception of the last match) they have really fallen that far behind the opposition. It's a shit time to be touring right now - injuries, end of season etc.

    Results certainly haven't been good enough, and changes to approach are required, but I still think EJ is the right man.

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