Highlanders vs Lions

[gt12]

Going to be 14-3 after 15.

Looking pretty easy so far for the Landers.

[Nepia]

That was some weird shit - wonder if it will be a try.

[Nepia]

Nope. That was weird - I thought a charge down puts every one on side, so wouldn't a lazy runner touching the ball put them onside as well?

[gt12]

I’m shocked that the Lions lock has got out that with not even a penalty.

[Gunner]

Can’t understand how that wasn’t a try.

Doesn’t matter if he didn’t play at it, this isn’t rugby league.
The prick was also offside and prevented a certain try. Where is the yellow card?

He refs have well and truly bottled that

[nzzp]

@gunner said in Highlanders vs Lions:

He refs have well and truly bottled that

Sounded like the TMO had no clue what to do, and just told the ref what happened. I've no bloody idea if an inadvertant touch puts people in front of the kicker onside -- but they just ruled that if you don't play at it, it doesn't~

[gt12]

@Damo will probably be able to clear this up, but I think the falcon ruling is right, if the player is not playing at it.

However, it should have been a penalty and YC.

[Nepia]

@gt12 said in Highlanders vs Lions:

@Damo will probably be able to clear this up, but I think the falcon ruling is right, if the player is not playing at it.

However, it should have been a penalty and YC.

When did not playing at it start creeping into rugby?

[Gunner]

@nzzp it’s just a complete balls up.

Minimum it’s a penalty for offside.
Doesn’t matter if he didn’t play at it, he’s interfered with the play from an offside position.

[gt12]

@nepia said in Highlanders vs Lions:

@gt12 said in Highlanders vs Lions:

@Damo will probably be able to clear this up, but I think the falcon ruling is right, if the player is not playing at it.

However, it should have been a penalty and YC.

When did not playing at it start creeping into rugby?

The laws state that:

A player offside under Law 10.4c cannot be put onside by any action of an opponent, apart from a charge down.

Except if an opponent intentionally touches the ball (which is the same thing).

[Rebound]

This is no the 2nd game in a row I am watching and it appears that the referees either don't know fairly simple rules, or don't know how to apply it

[Nepia]

@gt12 said in Highlanders vs Lions:

@nepia said in Highlanders vs Lions:

@gt12 said in Highlanders vs Lions:

@Damo will probably be able to clear this up, but I think the falcon ruling is right, if the player is not playing at it.

However, it should have been a penalty and YC.

When did not playing at it start creeping into rugby?

The laws state that:

A player offside under Law 10.4c cannot be put onside by any action of an opponent, apart from a charge down.

Except if an opponent intentionally touches the ball (which is the same thing).

Oh right, cheers. Does being offside and running into the path of the ball constitute 'intentionally touching the ball'?

[Stargazer]

This Highlanders game is a lot better for my blood pressue. Great try.

[Damo]

@gt12 if the TMO was happy that the lions player did not intentionally play at the ball then the call was correct. An offside player can be put onside in a number of ways, one of which is an opponent intentionally touching the ball.

[Rebound]

@nepia Exactly he was intentionally offside, so if he plays the ball even inadvertently its still intentional as he put himself there

[Rebound]

@damo thats a bullshit explanation, its not like the halfback passed the ball intentionally into the offside player. The offside player had plenty time to get out of the way. If the ball hits him its intentional because he got there intentionally

[Gunner]

Terrible last couple of minutes of the half from the Landers. Fucking terrible.

[hydro11]

Highlanders should have finished the game off on attack but instead have let the Lions back in with some braindead penalties. Leinert-Brown coming in from the side with time up on the clock and with the Lions in their own half is just bloody stupid.

[hydro11]

That whole play was Hammington's own fault. If Hammington had not passed the ball into the Lions player he would have got the penalty anyway. He tried to milk the penalty and did not get it. It's unsportsmanlike to deliberately play for a penalty IMO so I don't have much sympathy when you don't get the call. If the other team are offside play proper rugby and let the ref make the calls. Otherwise half backs do that sort of thing all night.

[Siam]

@hydro11
No
The Lion was solely responsible and did so with purpose.
There was a huge overlap and the pass reflected that.

We witnessed a tmo melt down

He gave no recommendation and replaying the grounding over and over, then agreeing no try was telling