All Blacks Squad for France
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
Get off the fern Stephen Jones
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@antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
Money talks. The $ potential of playing for ABs vs playing for Tonga isn't exactly close.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
Money talks. The $ potential of playing for ABs vs playing for Tonga isn't exactly close.
Playing for the ABs is seen as the ultimate goal for a lot of PI players. No doubt money plays a part, but there are cultural aspects to it as well.
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The poaching thing used to annoy me as we were trolled when we weren't actually doing any poaching, instead Polynesian-New Zealanders were country swapping.
Now we are actually doing it, so I'm chilled. Nothing to actually be annoyed about now. I expect plenty more, been a trend of about 1 every 2 years for the last decade.
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@stargazer Do the Chiefs have a dodgy mo 'thing' going at the moment?
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
I dunno... The last year or slightly more has shown a huge improvement in Whitelocks ability to boss the tackle. If he can learn it, surely Ioane can. Plus I don't recall it being something in Kainos arsenal until he'd been around a few years.
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@bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
I dunno... The last year or slightly more has shown a huge improvement in Whitelocks ability to boss the tackle. If he can learn it, surely Ioane can. Plus I don't recall it being something in Kainos arsenal until he'd been around a few years.
Kaino certainly took three or four years to really show his potential. IMO absolute peak when 28.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
It wouldn't be so bad if Frizell had made more of an impression for the Highlanders, but aside from that try scoring game, and his unimpressive cameo on the weekend, I barely remember him being on the field. He must be putting in some big hits on the training field.
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@pakman said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@stargazer Do the Chiefs have a dodgy mo 'thing' going at the moment?
They had them for the SA tour. DMac might need more time though.
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@rapido said in All Blacks Squad for France:
The poaching thing used to annoy me as we were trolled when we weren't actually doing any poaching, instead Polynesian-New Zealanders were country swapping.
Now we are actually doing it, so I'm chilled. Nothing to actually be annoyed about now. I expect plenty more, been a trend of about 1 every 2 years for the last decade.
I'm annoyed about it, especially with guys who come here as adults. At least Naholo, Tamanivalu etc came for schooling. Tamanivalu's international career is over, yet if not selected for the ABs he could be starting for Fiji while earning the big coin in France.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks Squad for France:
Squad
Strange that Coltman is wearing a jersey with the rest there but Akira isn't. Is Coltman capped already?
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
Pick him this squad so he is ours, then drop him , pick Akira in the next squad ?
Is that how it works .
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@kiwimurph what about 05, 06, 07? 😊
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@antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:
If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.
It could be worse. They could be going on a 'journey'
That requires a pact.
That will
workresonate if there is a, like, buy-in by everyone. But.
