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  • ToddyT Offline
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    @antipodean True. With Whitelock and Cane coming in around 1.90 and Akira at 1.94 that is quite a short trio. Squire and Fifita are 1.96. It does make quite a difference. Also, I don't think Whitelock, Cane or Akira are used regularly in the lineout.

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    @toddy said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @antipodean True. With Whitelock and Cane coming in around 1.90 and Akira at 1.94 that is quite a short trio. Squire and Fifita are 1.96. It does make quite a difference. Also, I don't think Whitelock, Cane or Akira are used regularly in the lineout.

    Not sure about the other two but Akira is used regularly in the Blues lineout.

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    @shadowtrooper said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @cgrant I concur - mostly. It seems both Crotty and SBW spend a fair amount of time out injured these days and will need to be managed carefully prior to the TRC and through the SR finals. I think we will see Goodhue and Laumape spend time in the centres, Laumape is developing into a Nonu-esque type of player, and Goodhue I can see will eventually succeed Crotty. t's a pity Aso is out injured and Procter seemingly not in the mix, as I think that would have added extra extra spice to the competiton for places.

    Have to say I'm quite frustrated with the midfield at the moment.

    SBW is a lock when healthy but doesn't have the speed or agility he once had. Crotty is a better 12 than 13 certainly.

    The NZ SR form 13's seem to barely get a mention - Proctor and Rob Thompson. IMHO, both are playing better than ALB and the "great white hope" Goodhue and both offer more around the park.

    ALB is having a better year than last year but not as good as Proctor and Thompson. Again, IMHO, both Proctor and Thompson are better defenders and offer more in attack.

    In terms of combinations, I think we could do a lot worse than starting Laumape and Proctor and have SBW on the bench for impact given his match fitness will be much lower than all the others in the running.

    Personally, I think it's a little early for Goodhue, who is a terrific prospect, but I prefer the maturity of both Proctor and Thompson.

    My $0.02 worth anyway.

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    @roninwc said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    ALB is having a better year than last year but not as good as Proctor and Thompson. Again, IMHO, both Proctor and Thompson are better defenders and offer more in attack.

    ALB has been there and looked exceptionally good at the top level. Suffered from 'second season' syndrome - but if they pick him, it's because he has characteristics that are known and the coaches think will be able to deliver.

    Personally I haven't seen enough Super this year to comment more sensibly

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    @kiwimurph yeah, just had a quick look and Akira has 17 lineout wins this year, Whitelock 3, Squire 3, Cane 1 and Fifita 17

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    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @toddy said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @antipodean True. With Whitelock and Cane coming in around 1.90 and Akira at 1.94 that is quite a short trio. Squire and Fifita are 1.96. It does make quite a difference. Also, I don't think Whitelock, Cane or Akira are used regularly in the lineout.

    Not sure about the other two but Akira is used regularly in the Blues lineout.

    Akira does everything for the Blues.

    @roninwc I've been well impressed by what I've seen of Thompson this year. Our stocks in the midfield don't look as bad as some were worrying about a year or two ago.

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    @roninwc If Proctor is only the 90kgs he's billed as on the Hurricanes website, then his size is against him as a test midfielder.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @roninwc If Proctor is only the 90kgs he's billed as on the Hurricanes website, then his size is against him as a test midfielder.

    He might have been 90kg when he came out of school, but I doubt he'd be that light now - rugby player's weights are so suss sometimes.

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    @nepia I know - but, he should complain to the Hurricanes website manager.

    Imagine if Hansen is in the selection meeting and he googles Proctor... 🙂

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    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    rugby player's weights are so suss sometimes

    As are players heights

    Which reminds me, I looked up Taufua's height recently and he was listed as being taller than I thought he would be.

    Then I did a quick check of the archive versions of the crusaders website

    2013 - 1.82m (21yrs)
    2014 - 1.82m (22yrs)
    2015 - 1.82m (23yrs)
    2016 - 1.85m (24yrs)
    2017 - 1.87m (25yrs)
    2018 - 1.87m (26yrs)

    It's not particularly important, but its worth noting how bullshit these stats can be

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    @duluth The phone book he stands on has got thicker!

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @duluth The phone book he stands on has got thicker!

    different haircuts. If he wants to be a test player he needs to get it stand up on end like a certain openside

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @duluth The phone book he stands on has got thicker!

    different haircuts. If he wants to be a test player he needs to get it stand up on end like a certain openside

    I still reckon Daniel Braid was the king of bullshit height stats.

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    @Duluth holy shit if he keeps growing at that rate he'll catch up to Ardie.

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    wasn't Ofisa Tonu'u one who always had his weight listed about 20kgs under what he actually weighed?

    Back then a 100kg halfback wasn't really the norm.

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    I was surprised to see Ardie was 1.9m? on the weekend. No idea if his height has crept up as well.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    wasn't Ofisa Tonu'u one who always had his weight listed about 20kgs under what he actually weighed?

    Back then a 100kg halfback wasn't really the norm.

    No matter how fat he got Piri Weepu never got over 94 kg either.

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    @chimoaus said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    I was surprised to see Ardie was 1.9m? on the weekend. No idea if his height has crept up as well.

    You're obviously new here

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

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    ALB for me is a so-so Super player and a better test player. He is a good support player and keeps the ball alive better than any other 13. When he is paired with either SBW or Crotty he has looked very good for ABs. In saying that i still think SBW and Crotty is best mix but if either goes down ALB at 13 and either t 12 works. Also remember ALB is only turning 23 this year. conrad Smith didn't even play ABS until he was 24!

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