Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The sad reality is the flip side of this is, Warner walks through the airport alone to take the heat, while the family is ushered out thr side door, the next day there is a photo and the headline is
"Disgraced cricketer abandoned by family"
I would agree with that and then criticism of those claiming that would be more than justified.
Look, I think DW is probably a fantastic father and husband, who is devoted to his family. I applaud him for having them on tour and anyone who criticises him for that is a cnut. But in this case it was quite clear he was trying to get sympathy and to get through the media with as least amount of harassment as possible. As much as he loves his family and they him, this is something he has done and he should be a man and leave them out of it, not use them to relieve pressure on himself.
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I see some people still have sympathy for Warner.
Me. I see the tears -- from an alleged hard man -- and think "fuckin' sook".
No, I haven't been through that sort of thing on that scale. But there'd be none of the blubbing, that I am sure of.
He was game for abuse. Now he's reaping the reward.
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@chester-draws said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I see some people still have sympathy for Warner.
Me. I see the tears -- from an alleged hard man -- and think "fuckin' sook".
No, I haven't been through that sort of thing on that scale. But there'd be none of the blubbing, that I am sure of.
He was game for abuse. Now he's reaping the reward.
Who's alleging he's a hard man?
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@chester-draws said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I see some people still have sympathy for Warner.
Me. I see the tears -- from an alleged hard man -- and think "fuckin' sook".
No, I haven't been through that sort of thing on that scale. But there'd be none of the blubbing, that I am sure of.
He was game for abuse. Now he's reaping the reward.
Wow. You are so tough. Incredible how you are mentally tougher than a successful test cricket opener
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Actually, I suspect I am tougher mentally in many respects.
I haven't punched anyone who pissed me off.
I haven't broken down in tears when my career was on the line for a mistake (which, sadly, it once was). I fronted up immediately. I never blamed anyone else or "stress".
Off course I would be a total fussy facing a fast ball, but the cricket parts of Warner's career are admirable. It's behaviour when he's not batting that is the issue.
I have never mocked decent people the way he has because they showed weakness. The way he has taunted some of the Poms was disgusting.
How bad would his behaviour have to be for you to accept that he's not a good man?
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If this is true, some people on here look quite judgemental. Smith was criticised for handing the first question of the press conference to Bancroft. Maybe he did that because he did not have prior knowledge of the plan. Of course, it is also possible that it isn't true.
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@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If this is true, some people on here look quite judgemental.
Hydro, meet the fern
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@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If this is true, some people on here look quite judgemental.
Hydro, meet the fern
Ferners call it how they see it with the information available at the time
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@chester-draws said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Actually, I suspect I am tougher mentally in many respects.
I haven't punched anyone who pissed me off.
I haven't broken down in tears when my career was on the line for a mistake (which, sadly, it once was). I fronted up immediately. I never blamed anyone else or "stress".
Off course I would be a total fussy facing a fast ball, but the cricket parts of Warner's career are admirable. It's behaviour when he's not batting that is the issue.
I have never mocked decent people the way he has because they showed weakness. The way he has taunted some of the Poms was disgusting.
How bad would his behaviour have to be for you to accept that he's not a good man?
You think all that happened was that he cried about losing his job? That is the the reason he was upset? You clearly havent been paying attention to the sheer level and breadth of vitriol.
If you think someone crying after the ridicule and vitriol he has faced is a 'fucking sook', I think you are full of shit and any claim that you are somehow tougher than him is blow hard bullshit. You have never faced even a fraction of what he is currently facing.
Is he a good man? Not on the field, but apparently off it he is, after speaking to people with first hand knowledge. Not that it matters because it is irrelevant to the discussion about you calling him a fucking sook for crying. Nobody should ever be called a fucking sook for crying, it is that exact kind of fake bravado and bullshit that means males have suicide rates waaay above females.Without exception it is the guys who claim others are sooks and that they are tough are the exact same ones with deep seated insecurities and weakness.
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What has he "gone through" exactly? He's still richer than shit, still one of the best batsmen in the world, still has at least 5 years of cricket earnings ahead of him, still has his family intact. Same goes for the other two.
If that's the worst torment these guys will face in their otherwise incredible lives then I'd take it tenfold right now. If there should be some perspective about their "crime" then there should also be some perspective about the apparently terrible ordeal they're now going through.
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@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If this is true, some people on here look quite judgemental. Smith was criticised for handing the first question of the press conference to Bancroft. Maybe he did that because he did not have prior knowledge of the plan. Of course, it is also possible that it isn't true.
It's difficult to reconcile these two sentences:
"It's understood investigators were told Smith did not know how the plan would be carried out until after Bancroft had been exposed on the big screen. It's believed they found Smith had expressed his dislike of the plan but did not attempt to stop it."
He disliked a plan he knew almost nothing of? As captain he didn't overhear a plan to cheat and be unequivocal about not accepting such a course of action?
@rancid-schnitzel said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
What has he "gone through" exactly?
People have said nasty things. Hurty words he's probably not heard before.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
What has he "gone through" exactly? He's still richer than shit, still one of the best batsmen in the world, still has at least 5 years of cricket earnings ahead of him, still has his family intact. Same goes for the other two.
If that's the worst torment these guys will face in their otherwise incredible lives then I'd take it tenfold right now. If there should be some perspective about their "crime" then there should also be some perspective about the apparently terrible ordeal they're now going through.
Word to this post brother. I get a bit sick of the whole 'ooooohhhh they've really been punished' brigade who are defending them, by the same token the ones still sticking the boot in are getting tiresome too though....
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@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
All the hate and vitrol thrown their way the past week must have caught them by surprise. Especially from their own backyard
It would come as a surprise to Smith and Bancroft. Smith because he's used to adulation. Not just for his batting prowess, but how he's single-handed swung the fortune for Australia on the field. Bancroft because up until this point he's really been a grey man.
Not hard to look online and see all the abuse hurled at them, the glee in how they have been taken down a few hundred pegs.
Australia loves cutting down tall poppies.
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I don't care if he's a good man or not. Australia kept selecting him, and not only that, promoted him to vice captain. His behaviour was supported, and it looks to me like it was encouraged.
And now he's being properly thrown under the bus - the latest article above saying how Smith didn't even know, just further twisting the knife on what I've mentioned above.
Given the red carpet that Smiths been given, the media slant of moving away from blaming Smith and heaping it on Warner, I'd be considering my legal options too if I was him. Let's remember 12 months for both warner and smith. Same punishment for same crime
