Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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@siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@sidbarret there was a glorious piece of reverse swing bowling by Starc and Hazelwood in the 2nd innings of the first test that unfortunately has me wondering now.
That's a big part of the issue IMO. So much opportunity for "I wonder if they were doing it then..."
Michael Vaughan has come out and said he was "pretty sure" it went on during the Ashes series.
It puts doubt in the mind. A bit like Stuart Broad's 169 against Pakiistan. There will always be a "were they trying to lose"?
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@Catogrande I was wondering how the hell he had a HS of 169. "Pakistan" clears that up - cheers.
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@barbarian said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@sidbarret said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I am just really struggling to understand vitriol that is being directed at the team. They cheated, they got caught, it is embarrassing, but fuckâin hell, the sun is going to come up tomorrow and little Johnny down by the oval is still going to want to play for Australia.
Sid I think this statement could be applied to more than just the Australian public.
At times like this social media becomes an absolute cesspool, and I've seen some pretty disgusting statements from people of all stripes.
Calls for lifetime bans (out of India and South Africa, mainly) are patently absurd. The shrill hysteria is becoming a little bit much.
Barbs I actually welcome all the media attention for this issue.
The internet generation might learn why cheating is a poor option with unfavourable repercussions.
Society needs these reminders from time to time, albeit in the shrill of MSM.
That media shrill is ever present so, like putting up with incompetent referees, we have to learn to work around themđ
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@no-quarter said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@Catogrande I was wondering how the hell he had a HS of 169. "Pakistan" clears that up - cheers.
Not just them generally, but specifically in that fourth test at Lords in 2010 which was the one where Butt and Amir got done for deliberate no-balls
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@mokey said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Just read this article by Clementine Ford for the SMH. She makes some great points in terms of the national hysteria about this scandal (including one fuckface who called this Cricket's #MeToo moment WTAF) and how this is in no way Australian sports darkest day.
I note she has a book coming out in October called 'Boys will be Boys'
Shit, I bet that's an awesome one to look forward to for Xmas.
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@siam that is bit of touchy issue.
Reverse swing is a little like sausage, we like them but we don't want to see how they are made.
Maintaining and working a ball is an art and all teams do it and when they are caught it usually involves a small step over the line. SA asked whether the umpires consider Warner's bandages were over the line, the umpires said no. Last time Australia was here Warner asked whether the practice of returning the ball on the bounce was over the line and the impact said no.
In any case, the first innings collapse happened just after the ball was changed so it is not like the Aussies had a chance to tamper with it, they just got very lucky with the ball that chosen.
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- A word from Australiaâs current opponents: South Africaâs coach Ottis Gibson has had his say on the touristsâ âwin at all costsâ mentality.
âThe Aussies have said it themselves, the brand of cricket they play is win-at-all-costs,â Gibson said on Tuesday, wondering whether the relative ease of Australiaâs Ashes win might have played a part.
âWhen you look at the Ashes, they were never really behind in any of the games, they won quite comfortably. Here they have been behind a couple of times and perhaps that desperation came into it. Itâs a shame that something like this had to happen for them to have to have a look at themselves.
âEvery team, since the beginning of reverse swing, tries to get the ball to reverse. They skim it in, they bounce it in, they try and get it rough. The spinner gets his hand in the dirt and rubs it on the ball. Everybody has got a way of getting the ball to go a little bit further. The ball will reverse naturally, but everybody has a way of getting it to go a little bit further. Perhaps the desperation that they were behind in the game meant they took it that step further. Itâs unfortunate.â
Gibson expressed surprise at how big the story has become globally, but believes this is because of the spectacular fall-from-grace for a side that has been such a power in the game. âWhen you see such a deliberate act, then people will become very interested in it,â he said. âEspecially with what Steve Smith said, that it was planned by a few of them, makes it an even bigger topic for people to talk about.
âCricket Australia is a hundred-year-old organisation and they have been the envy of the world in terms of winning World Cup and so on. They have had great teams and great players for a long time. Those great players from the past will now feel like their good name has been tarnished a bit, so people have a right to be upset about it.â
Though even the most cricket-obsessed of us might have been surprised at it leading the BBCâs 10 oâclock news the other night.*
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Fuuuck this is the gift that keeps on giving. Just read a story on Fox Sports that i swear should be on the Betoota.
David Warner got on the piss with his mates and removed himself from the team Whatsapp group. Teammates have demanded he br removed from the team hotel before there is an "incident".
Awesome
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This is mental. Do you reckon he was on a one man mission to get SA after all the bants about his missus? Kinda shaping up like that.
We're gonna need more popcorn.
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Was about to put up the same thing @barbarian - even for those annoyed by twitter threads, its an interesting read from a journo who has been around the team for a while.
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Fuuuck this is the gift that keeps on giving. Just read a story on Fox Sports that i swear should be on the Betoota.
David Warner got on the piss with his mates and removed himself from the team Whatsapp group. Teammates have demanded he br removed from the team hotel before there is an "incident".
Awesome
@Virgil just woke up with a massive rage boner
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Steve Waugh has his say - so all of us can shut the fuck up, get back up to our mark, and do the best to knock him over:
FORMER Australian skipper Steve Waugh has taken Steve Smith and Co. to task in a lengthy message directed at the Australian cricket team, accusing the humiliated side of failing the baggy green.
The famed batsman and stoic leader captained the national side to one of its highest points since Don Bradmanâs Invincibles in the 1940s.
As legendary as the boy from Panania was with the bat, his expertise at the crease will always be overshadowed by his ferocious leadership and burning desire to win.
Sledging â or, as Waugh described it, âmental disintegrationâ â never took a back seat under his 57-match leadership between 199 and 2004, a period which saw Australia lose just nine Tests.
But in his 168-match tenure across a glittering 19-year Test career, âTuggaâ never had to deal with a controversy so damaging to the image of Australian cricket.
The 52-year-old lambasted his former side after an unfathomable turn of events saw Steve Smith banned by the ICC for overseeing ball tampering in the third Test in Cape Town.
Waugh revealed heâd been messaged by thousands of âheartbrokenâ fans after the ugly footage in Cape Town was exposed.
âLike many, Iâm deeply troubled by the events in Cape Town this last week, and acknowledge the thousands of messages I have received, mostly from heartbroken cricket followers worldwide,â Waugh said on Tuesday.
âThe Australian Cricket team has always believed it could win in any situation against any opposition, by playing combative, skilful and fair cricket, driven by our pride in the fabled Baggy Green.
âI have no doubt the current Australian team continues to believe in this mantra, however some have now failed our culture, making a serious error of judgment in the Cape Town Test match.â
Waugh urged Cricket Australia to revisit the Spirit of Cricket document as the national side deals with a complete leadership overhaul.
âIn 2003, we modified the Spirit of Cricket document originally created by the M.C.C., to empower our players to set their own standards and commit to play the Australian way,â Waugh said.
âWe must urgently revisit this document, rebind our players to it and ensure the spirit in which we play is safeguarded for the future of the sport, and to continue to inspire the dreams of every young kid picking up a bat and ball and for every fan who lives and breathes the game.
âA focused and balanced perspective is needed in the condemnation on those involved in this, with a clear and critical consideration to the social impact and mental health of all players.
âI will support all positive action to ensure an outcome for the betterment of the game, regaining the trust and faith of every fan of cricket.â
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The Betoota Advocate is fucking loving this:
NSW-Favouritism To Blame For Disintegrating Moral Fibre Of Cricket Side, Says QLD Dads
CLANCY OVERELL | Editor | CONTACT
The recent ball-tampering scandal currently rocking Australian Cricket to itâs core is purely a result of the blatant NSW-favouritism shown by selectors, says a ropable Ipswich man.
This follows Australian cricketer Cameron Bancroft was charged with ball tampering, and his captain Steve Smith suspended for one Test after he admitted that he and other senior players, who he refused to name, plotted during a lunch break to illegally tamper with the ball in the third Test against South Africa in Cape Town.
Even Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has weighed in on the disgusting display of poor sportsmanship, however dads around Queensland say it all could have been avoidable if they still had blokes from humble Queensland stock running around out there.
âYou reckon Roy or fucking Johnson would have carried on like those little fucking princesses have?â says Wally Lockyer (65).
âYou get a start playing for New South Wales, you get a start playing for Australia. Thatâs how it works and itâs fucking us upâ
Cricket greats including Shane Warne, Adam Gilchrist and Michael Clarke have slammed the attempted cheating, which has prompted an investigation from Cricket Australia.
However, Wally says this issue is far more deeply engrained than youâd think. Itâs just like the Wallabies and how they treated Ewen and Eddie Jones. These elitist pricks down in the Harbour canât cop their games being dominated by Queenslanders. Lucky we have Origin so we can rub it in their face every year.
âClarke canât say shit. He was the one that brought these blokes through. What happened to the days when the Sydney cricketers were scrappers like Thommo and the Waughsâ
âThis is the most despicable shit I have ever seen. I could drive down to the offices at the SCG and start knocking blokes outâ.
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Roy Pulling In Gropers Up North, Unavailable For Comment, Doesnât Care, Fuck Youse
CLANCY OVERELL | Editor | CONTACT
After spending the last couple hours trying to get ahold of the Charters Tower axeman, our reporters have been informed that Andrew Symonds is in some dodgy reception up North â and also he couldnât give two fucks about what has become of the Michael Clarke legacy.
After a decade long career as a batting all-rounder, Andrew Symonds was one of the many members of the late 90s Australian cricketing old guard to be publicly smeared and disrespected by both Cricket Australia and the blonde-tipped younger kids that came through at the back end of his career.
Symonds was set to play for Australia in the August 2008 series against Bangladesh in Darwin, but was sent home to Queensland after missing a team meeting while out fishing. A minor slip up not nearly as bad as intentionally roughing up a match ball with sand paper.
Stand-in captain Michael Clarke told the media that Symonds would have to re-evaluate his desire to represent Australia: âThe main concern from us is Andrewâs commitment, to playing for this team and, in my opinion and I know the rest of the leadership teamâs opinion, you need to be committed 100 per cent.â
Adding insult to injury, Symonds was not selected for the Australian tour to India in October 2008.
Between crackling phone calls from a tinnie somewhere up north, Andrew Symonds was not available for comment because he couldnât really give a fuck about whatâs become of these precious Sydney boys.
âGotta goâ he shouts.
âIâve got a Queensland groper tugging on the Shimano. Only out here with light gear so need both handsâ
âGo ask Katich what he reckons. Fuck youseâ
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Steve Smith Most Disappointing Cheater Since Karl Kennedy
CLANCY OVERELL | Editor | CONTACT
A recent poll of Australians who are emotionally invested in light entertainment television programming, has found that Australian cricket captain Steve Smithâs admission of ball-tampering against South Africa is even more disappointing than when Dr Karl Kennedy potted that chick from the Rogue Traders.
As the nation mourns for the loss of misplaced sense of sportsmanship that never really existed in the first place, the disappointment can only be explained through parallels to soap opera storylines from over 10 years ago.
This comes as Australian cricketer Cameron Bancroft was charged with ball tampering, and his captain Steve Smith suspended for one Test after he admitted that he and other senior players, who he refused to name, plotted during a lunch break to illegally tamper with the ball in the third Test against South Africa in Cape Town.
Even Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has weighed in on the disgusting display of poor sportsmanship. The Prime Minister himself has likened the disapointed felt by Australia to the time the iconic Neighbours patriarch left his wife Susan for a younger woman in the early 2000s.
âNatalie Bassingthwaighte was so hot. I get it. Thatâs a given. But when Karl started rooted her it was dog asâ said the Prime Minister.
âThe same goes for Steven Smith. The entire nation is disappointed in you, you idiotâ
âWhat youâve done is worse than what Karl did. And thatâs saying somethingâ
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
no respect for betoota, they plagiarized one of my shithouse fake news stories lock stock and fucken barrel a couple of years ago
Not to go all Baron, but prove it with a link fluffybunny or GTFO