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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    Who is Williams ?

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    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    Who is Williams ?

    Ill take this as a genuine Q.

    SBW

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    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    Who is Williams ?

    Ha, I was wondering the same.
    We are so used to using SBW that we hardly ever see him described simply as 'Williams'

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    Hansen said on the TV news tonight that Ioane is a strong contender for the no.8 jersey against France. Nothing really definite but it does suggest he is in the mix.

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    @bovidae Interesting that they are looking at him as an 8. I think his work rate on defence is better at 6, but his ball carrying is better at 8.

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    @kiwimurph said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    From All Blacks Twitter:

    NEWS: Chiefs halfback Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi has been invited to attend the All Blacks ‘Foundation Day’ in Wellington today. North-Island based All Blacks from the Chiefs, Blues & Hurricanes are in for the day, which is aimed at laying the foundation for the All Blacks season.

    Good. I know they had Drummond in and around the squad. But really? Some much better prospects at 9 doing the rounds. T-cubed especially.

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    @tim

    They've had very defined roles for the no.6 and no.8 positions. When Kaino was 6 he was used in tight allowing Read to roam in the wider channels. Last year when Squire replaced Kaino, Read assumed the Kaino-like role closer to the breakdown, and Squire used his speed further out wide.

    So the choice of no.8 will be dependent on who plays blindside. For this reason I don't like Squire (8) and Fifita (6) because the latter is a "very loose" loose forward so Squire would need to work closer in. I don't think he is suited to that role.

    I think Hansen and co will go one of two ways:

    (i) Squire (6) and Whitelock (8) with Whitelock doing the donkey work on defence, as he does for the Highlanders
    (ii) Squire (6) and Ioane (8) with Ioane playing more like a 6 as you say. Ioane would also provide some speed and power off the scrum which Whitelock definitely doesn't.

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    @bovidae think you probably have to look at the way they defend also, Whitelock/Cane/Read are great in the narrow channels with their ability to put on a big hit or a surprise hit coming out to in. Ioane would be best suited stationed wider where he can use his upper body strength to target the ball and/or hold players up.

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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !

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    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !

    Is he eligible for Wales? As far as I know his old man is a Kiwi - not sure if his parents are Welsh.

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    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !

    Granted he's going great guns, but who are you gonna drop for him? He seems too small for 6 at international level.

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    @bones
    Ardie Savea ?

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    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @bones
    Ardie Savea ?

    I know I would, but I can't see the selectors doing so unfortunately.

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    @nepia said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !

    Is he eligible for Wales? As far as I know his old man is a Kiwi - not sure if his parents are Welsh.

    Feels Welsh

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    That would make things much more interesting. We might see a Whitelock (6), Cane (7), Ioane (8) loose forward trio.

    Other options would be to play Fifita or S Barrett at 6, move Cane and bring in Todd, or give Taufua an opportunity. A lack of lineout height for those last two options though.

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    That's a no to SBarrett at 6 from me

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    @bovidae Cane seems to be very similar in size to Messam... He does OK in lineouts.

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    @bones said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @bovidae Cane seems to be very similar in size to Messam... He does OK in lineouts.

    Cane would be a fine 6, but he's easily our best 7 at the moment so not sure we want to do a Wallabies at play two 7s.

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    @nepia when your other 7 is better than most other teams 7s then I'd not have a problem with it. Pretty sure they've played together before haven't they?

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