AB Positions up for grabs
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@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
The list accorinding to Newshub:
Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, WilliamsChiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.Who is Williams ?
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@cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
The list accorinding to Newshub:
Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, WilliamsChiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.Who is Williams ?
Ill take this as a genuine Q.
SBW
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@cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
The list accorinding to Newshub:
Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, WilliamsChiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.Who is Williams ?
Ha, I was wondering the same.
We are so used to using SBW that we hardly ever see him described simply as 'Williams' -
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@kiwimurph said in AB Positions up for grabs:
From All Blacks Twitter:
NEWS: Chiefs halfback Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi has been invited to attend the All Blacks ‘Foundation Day’ in Wellington today. North-Island based All Blacks from the Chiefs, Blues & Hurricanes are in for the day, which is aimed at laying the foundation for the All Blacks season.
Good. I know they had Drummond in and around the squad. But really? Some much better prospects at 9 doing the rounds. T-cubed especially.
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They've had very defined roles for the no.6 and no.8 positions. When Kaino was 6 he was used in tight allowing Read to roam in the wider channels. Last year when Squire replaced Kaino, Read assumed the Kaino-like role closer to the breakdown, and Squire used his speed further out wide.
So the choice of no.8 will be dependent on who plays blindside. For this reason I don't like Squire (8) and Fifita (6) because the latter is a "very loose" loose forward so Squire would need to work closer in. I don't think he is suited to that role.
I think Hansen and co will go one of two ways:
(i) Squire (6) and Whitelock (8) with Whitelock doing the donkey work on defence, as he does for the Highlanders
(ii) Squire (6) and Ioane (8) with Ioane playing more like a 6 as you say. Ioane would also provide some speed and power off the scrum which Whitelock definitely doesn't. -
@bovidae think you probably have to look at the way they defend also, Whitelock/Cane/Read are great in the narrow channels with their ability to put on a big hit or a surprise hit coming out to in. Ioane would be best suited stationed wider where he can use his upper body strength to target the ball and/or hold players up.
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@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
The list accorinding to Newshub:
Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, WilliamsChiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !
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@cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
The list accorinding to Newshub:
Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, WilliamsChiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !
Is he eligible for Wales? As far as I know his old man is a Kiwi - not sure if his parents are Welsh.
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@cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
The list accorinding to Newshub:
Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, WilliamsChiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !
Granted he's going great guns, but who are you gonna drop for him? He seems too small for 6 at international level.
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@nepia said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
The list accorinding to Newshub:
Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, WilliamsChiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !
Is he eligible for Wales? As far as I know his old man is a Kiwi - not sure if his parents are Welsh.
Feels Welsh
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That would make things much more interesting. We might see a Whitelock (6), Cane (7), Ioane (8) loose forward trio.
Other options would be to play Fifita or S Barrett at 6, move Cane and bring in Todd, or give Taufua an opportunity. A lack of lineout height for those last two options though.
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That's a no to SBarrett at 6 from me
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@bones said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@bovidae Cane seems to be very similar in size to Messam... He does OK in lineouts.
Cane would be a fine 6, but he's easily our best 7 at the moment so not sure we want to do a Wallabies at play two 7s.
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