AB Positions up for grabs
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@sammyc said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@mn5 said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@sammyc said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@mn5 said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@sammyc said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@crazy-horse said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer in all seriousness I wonder if the Crusaders are considering him at 10? Hunt and Delaney are not 10s that you can win a championship with and Havili is looking good at the back.
No chance, razor really rates Mitch hunt. Dagg defending at 10 gives me nightmares
But you're happy for him to defend at fullback?
Nope, Havilli is first choice fullback for the crusaders these days.
Well he did play a number of tests at 15 for the ABs unless I'm mistaken.
....and they're a better team than the saders.
You asked my opinion and I gave it... ive never rated Dagg as a defender and have been pretty vocal about it on here.
So to answer your question, I’m not happy with dagg defending at fullback in any team
Fair call but 'nightmares' seems a bit over the top. He's no Merhts....
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Dagg has a big punt, but it's a fullback's punt -- there's a long and deep wind-up. Fullbacks who move into the line struggle to get their kicks away in time -- charge-downs were a real issue for Leon McDonald when he did it.
You'd have to be really desperate.
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@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@crazy-horse I seriously doubt they're considering it. They may use his boot now and then, but that's about it. As far as I know, Dagg has never played at 10. I think Dagg will end up playing at 14 like last year, with Tamanivalu moving to 11 and Bridge to the bench.
Didn't he play 10 for the Highlanders in a few games ?
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@cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@crazy-horse I seriously doubt they're considering it. They may use his boot now and then, but that's about it. As far as I know, Dagg has never played at 10. I think Dagg will end up playing at 14 like last year, with Tamanivalu moving to 11 and Bridge to the bench.
Didn't he play 10 for the Highlanders in a few games ?
I don't think he did, but I remember him kicking goals for them though.
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@cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@crazy-horse I seriously doubt they're considering it. They may use his boot now and then, but that's about it. As far as I know, Dagg has never played at 10. I think Dagg will end up playing at 14 like last year, with Tamanivalu moving to 11 and Bridge to the bench.
Didn't he play 10 for the Highlanders in a few games ?
I decided to check it and the answer is 'no'. All the games he played, he started at fullback (with Ben Smith starting most games at 14). First fives in those days included Dan Bowden, Jayden Hayward, Matt Berquist and Robbie Robinson.
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@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@crazy-horse I seriously doubt they're considering it. They may use his boot now and then, but that's about it. As far as I know, Dagg has never played at 10. I think Dagg will end up playing at 14 like last year, with Tamanivalu moving to 11 and Bridge to the bench.
Didn't he play 10 for the Highlanders in a few games ?
I decided to check it and the answer is 'no'. All the games he played, he started at fullback (with Ben Smith starting most games at 14). First fives in those days included Dan Bowden, Jayden Hayward, Matt Berquist and Robbie Robinson.
He certainly learned from the best then.
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@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@crazy-horse said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@footy01 said in AB Positions up for grabs:
I think we could be struggling for a back up 10.
If you look at the 5 starting franchise 10s, you have Beauden(Canes), Lima ( Highlanders), Gatland/Perofeta (Blues), Richie ( Crusaders) and Mckenzie/Falcon
If McKenzie isn’t playing 10 for the chiefs then he can’t really count as a genuine option.
Richie could be injured for most of the season before the June series.
So Hansen could be left with picking out of Falcon, Gatland, Perofeta or Hunt for third 10When is Dagg due back? Cometh the hour, cometh the man!
Just saw on instagram that Dagg has returned to training with the Crusaders today!
First five-eighth problem solved
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@booboo said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@crazy-horse said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@footy01 said in AB Positions up for grabs:
I think we could be struggling for a back up 10.
If you look at the 5 starting franchise 10s, you have Beauden(Canes), Lima ( Highlanders), Gatland/Perofeta (Blues), Richie ( Crusaders) and Mckenzie/Falcon
If McKenzie isn’t playing 10 for the chiefs then he can’t really count as a genuine option.
Richie could be injured for most of the season before the June series.
So Hansen could be left with picking out of Falcon, Gatland, Perofeta or Hunt for third 10When is Dagg due back? Cometh the hour, cometh the man!
Just saw on instagram that Dagg has returned to training with the Crusaders today!
First five-eighth problem solved
So I'm late to that joke ...
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@tim Makes sense to invite Julian with all the injuries going around the AB ranks at the moment. Doesn't mean a thing for selection in June, though.
Oh, how hard would it have been for Bidwell to also include the list of Blues and Chiefs players attending camp?
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I doubt the list of canes players came from the ABs, rather from the canes themselves.
Also Hansen will not be the one planning the actual days of the camps, he would have asked for them but various underlings would have done the organising and negotiating with the teams.
I'll stop making excuses now 🤪
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@booboo said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@booboo said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@crazy-horse said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@footy01 said in AB Positions up for grabs:
I think we could be struggling for a back up 10.
If you look at the 5 starting franchise 10s, you have Beauden(Canes), Lima ( Highlanders), Gatland/Perofeta (Blues), Richie ( Crusaders) and Mckenzie/Falcon
If McKenzie isn’t playing 10 for the chiefs then he can’t really count as a genuine option.
Richie could be injured for most of the season before the June series.
So Hansen could be left with picking out of Falcon, Gatland, Perofeta or Hunt for third 10When is Dagg due back? Cometh the hour, cometh the man!
Just saw on instagram that Dagg has returned to training with the Crusaders today!
First five-eighth problem solved
So I'm late to that joke ...
a Five eighth trapped in a fullbacks body ?
Not a time for jokes .
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By my reckoning, currently injured ABs (selected for a NZ AB squad in 2017)
(Blake Gibson - removed at Stargazer's request)
Atu Moli
Dominic Bird
Kane Hames
Nepo Laulala
Dane Coles
Nehe Milner-Skudder
Jeffery Toomaga-Allen
Owen Franks
Joe Moody
Tim Perry
Kieran Read
Sam Whitelock
Ryan Crotty
Israal Dagg
Richie Mo'unga
Liam SquireThe main problem really is the front row...
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@billy-tell JTA played for the Hurricanes Dev team last Saturday, and may be available for the main team this Saturday.
Gibson is not an AB.
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@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@billy-tell JTA played for the Hurricanes Dev team last Saturday, and may be available for the main team this Saturday.
Gibson is not an AB.
Gottim yes!
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@stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:
@billy-tell JTA played for the Hurricanes Dev team last Saturday, and may be available for the main team this Saturday.
Gibson is not an AB.
He was called into the AB squad to replace an injured Sam Cane in 2017.
If you'd be so good as to read my selection criteria.
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@billy-tell You mean "selected for a NZ AB squad in 2017"? He never played for the ABs. He has only been in camp with them, just like Riccitelli and possibly a few others. They were only there as injury cover; never played.
