Veitch is done
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@milk said in Veitch is done:
I wonder if the fact he never seemed to take responsibility stopped him getting rehabilitated in the public's eye?
Just surmising but I get a sense of the current #MeToo #WarAgainstWomen cultural climate and can imagine that management was concerned at staff & family Christmas parties being repeatedly asked, “Gee, with people losing jobs over bum-pinching it does seem pretty incredible Vietchy still has a job after violently putting the boot into his sheila, doncha think?” Maybe the weight of that question got really-really heavy & tiresome, and management had no good answers.
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@salacious-crumb said in Veitch is done:
@milk said in Veitch is done:
I wonder if the fact he never seemed to take responsibility stopped him getting rehabilitated in the public's eye?
Just surmising but I get a sense of the current #MeToo #WarAgainstWomen cultural climate and can imagine that management was concerned at staff & family Christmas parties being repeatedly asked, “Gee, with people losing jobs over bum-pinching it does seem pretty incredible Vietchy still has a job after violently putting the boot into his sheila, doncha think?” Maybe the weight of that question got really-really heavy & tiresome, and management had no good answers.
Is there a good answer?
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@catogrande said in Veitch is done:
@salacious-crumb said in Veitch is done:
@milk said in Veitch is done:
I wonder if the fact he never seemed to take responsibility stopped him getting rehabilitated in the public's eye?
Just surmising but I get a sense of the current #MeToo #WarAgainstWomen cultural climate and can imagine that management was concerned at staff & family Christmas parties being repeatedly asked, “Gee, with people losing jobs over bum-pinching it does seem pretty incredible Vietchy still has a job after violently putting the boot into his sheila, doncha think?” Maybe the weight of that question got really-really heavy & tiresome, and management had no good answers.
Is there a good answer?
No
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@salacious-crumb said in Veitch is done:
@milk said in Veitch is done:
I wonder if the fact he never seemed to take responsibility stopped him getting rehabilitated in the public's eye?
Just surmising but I get a sense of the current #MeToo #WarAgainstWomen cultural climate and can imagine that management was concerned at staff & family Christmas parties being repeatedly asked, “Gee, with people losing jobs over bum-pinching it does seem pretty incredible Vietchy still has a job after violently putting the boot into his sheila, doncha think?” Maybe the weight of that question got really-really heavy & tiresome, and management had no good answers.
Wouldn't the answer be - he did lose his job when that happened (multiple jobs in fact) and subsequently went through the court system and it is now 10 years on and NZME believes in rehabilitation and a second chance.
You don't have to agree with it, but there is a coherent argument for it (which is why he has had the gig for the past five years - it's not as if this wasn't discussed at the time he was rehired).
Public sentiment is fickle. If you take the six or seven big cases of this nature in NZ sport over the past decade - and public opinion on a case by case basis is massively inconsistent. The only constant seems to be forgiveness is only available to those the public like.
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@jegga said in Veitch is done:
Can someone point out to me where it says his past history cost him this job?
How he didn’t do time for what he did I’ll never know , quite happy for his sentence to be forever reminded of his behaviour in lieu of jail though.
The fact he didn't do time always showed me that there are two sides to a story, and perhaps not all facts declared in court went public.
You can't avoid jail time for the anti vietches version of what happened. You just can't.
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@majorrage said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
Can someone point out to me where it says his past history cost him this job?
How he didn’t do time for what he did I’ll never know , quite happy for his sentence to be forever reminded of his behaviour in lieu of jail though.
The fact he didn't do time always showed me that there are two sides to a story, and perhaps not all facts declared in court went public.
You can't avoid jail time for the anti vietches version of what happened. You just can't.
Well actually you can if you're part of NZ sports elite. Numerous recent ABs, young Wellington winger in the incident last year etc.
I guarantee the old 'This will effect the career of NZs top sporting journalist' chestnut came out in his defence.
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From the released police report...
“As a result of the assault the Complainant received a traumatic haematoma, a sprain to the sacroiliac ligament and two fractures to the spine which were causative of an on-going nerve problem.
“Resulting muscle loss has caused a physical disfigurement in that area of the back.”
But 6 other 'male assaults female' charges were dropped.
I'd expect those letters about Veitch's good character played a role in avoiding jail. Not sure where the above sits in terms of king hits or similar - but he was walking a knife edge in terms of a jail sentence imo. From memory it sounded like they had a mutually violent/traumatic relationship, but that in no way excuses his actions.
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@majorrage said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
Can someone point out to me where it says his past history cost him this job?
How he didn’t do time for what he did I’ll never know , quite happy for his sentence to be forever reminded of his behaviour in lieu of jail though.
The fact he didn't do time always showed me that there are two sides to a story, and perhaps not all facts declared in court went public.
You can't avoid jail time for the anti vietches version of what happened. You just can't.
Have a read of this, I’m very very surprised he didn’t do time for this amount of abuse and he must have spent a fortune on legal fees to avoid time. That’s not an anti Veitch view those are the facts from his court file, the time he broke her spine wasn’t a one off -note the time he refused to let her call an ambulance. I’m not surprised his co workers loathe him .
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2427247/Tony-Veitch-police-file-released
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@mn5 said in Veitch is done:
@majorrage said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
Can someone point out to me where it says his past history cost him this job?
How he didn’t do time for what he did I’ll never know , quite happy for his sentence to be forever reminded of his behaviour in lieu of jail though.
The fact he didn't do time always showed me that there are two sides to a story, and perhaps not all facts declared in court went public.
You can't avoid jail time for the anti vietches version of what happened. You just can't.
Well actually you can if you're part of NZ sports elite. Numerous recent ABs, young Wellington winger in the incident last year etc.
I guarantee the old 'This will effect the career of NZs top sporting journalist' chestnut came out in his defence.
Like the little Ferals that killed Stephen Dudley
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@jegga said in Veitch is done:
@majorrage said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
Can someone point out to me where it says his past history cost him this job?
How he didn’t do time for what he did I’ll never know , quite happy for his sentence to be forever reminded of his behaviour in lieu of jail though.
The fact he didn't do time always showed me that there are two sides to a story, and perhaps not all facts declared in court went public.
You can't avoid jail time for the anti vietches version of what happened. You just can't.
Have a read of this, I’m very very surprised he didn’t do time for this amount of abuse and he must have spent a fortune on legal fees to avoid time. That’s not an anti Veitch view those are the facts from his court file, the time he broke her spine wasn’t a one off -note the time he refused to let her call an ambulance. I’m not surprised his co workers loathe him .
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2427247/Tony-Veitch-police-file-released
Leaves her at A and E at 6am cos heaven forbid the listeners don't get to hear him sucking off some sports star. What a cock.
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@jegga said in Veitch is done:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2427247/Tony-Veitch-police-file-released
Damn, I've never read that before - he really is a cock of the highest order. Fuck him and fuck his career.
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I think the impact on someones career is always taken into account, regardless of sporting or not, not just NZ.
Student who stabbed boyfriend may avoid jail as it would ‘damage her career’
Aspiring surgeon Lavinia Woodward admits attack but judge defers sentencing because of her ‘extraordinary’ talent
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@taniwharugby said in Veitch is done:
I think the impact on someones career is always taken into account, regardless of sporting or not, not just NZ.
Student who stabbed boyfriend may avoid jail as it would ‘damage her career’
Aspiring surgeon Lavinia Woodward admits attack but judge defers sentencing because of her ‘extraordinary’ talent
Judge in that case mentions a one off which definitely doesn't apply to Veich
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@nepia said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2427247/Tony-Veitch-police-file-released
Damn, I've never read that before - he really is a cock of the highest order. Fuck him and fuck his career.
Yup what a piece of shit.
Heres his highlight reel for those not wanting to read the whole article..
*It contains “Version 1, Summary of Facts” which was written to be presented in court by the Crown.
The summary refers to allegations of assault around charges later dropped. The first of the dropped charges was between March 15, 2002 to April 19, 2003 when Ms Dunne-Powell arrived at Veitch’s home where they argued.*
“During the argument the Defendant (Veitch) stood in front of the Complainant’s face, forcing her backward against a wall,” the summary of facts in the police file says.
Ms Dunne-Powell slid down the wall toward the floor and “and as she moved to escape sideways (Veitch) kicked her two to three times to the back of the thigh”, it said.
The next charge related to an incident between April 14, 2003 and April 9, 2005 at a cottage in Mangawhai. The couple argued and Veitch grabbed Ms Dunne-Powell and threw her on a bed, according to the file.
The police file says: “The Defendant stood over the Complainant shouting at her as she lay on her back, then picked up a glass of water from the side table and threw the content into the Complainant’s face. At one point during the assault the Defendant punched a hole in the wall of the cottage.”
Another incident occurred on June 3, 2005 at the Novotel in Rotorua, according to the summary.
In the room Veitch grabbed Ms Dunne-Powell from “behind with both hands and lifted her off her feet and threw her onto the bed", the police file said.
The summary of facts file says he pinned her to the bed and she later fled.
At Veitch’s St Heliers Bay home on July 8, 2005 the two argued again. Veitch chased her upstairs into the bedroom and then blocked her escape.
“As (Ms Dunne-Powell) lowered herself to the floor to get away (Veitch) kicked her in her right thigh with a force so hard it spun her onto her back,” the summary says.
He kicked her twice more and she suffered severe bruising. On the morning of July 5, 2005 at the home they argued again.
In December 2005 at the home Veitch grabbed Ms Dunne-Powell “**by both arms and pulled her out of the room and down the stairs to the front door entrance.”
Inside the front door he kicked her a number of times on both legs.**
However, the incident that related to the charge Veitch pleaded guilty to, is also in the file.
It occurred on January 29, 2006 where a heated argument occurred. Veitch kicked her two to three times in her back.“The blows caused the complainant to collapse on the floor screaming. (Veitch) crouched down beside the complainant and asked if she was ‘OK’ as she repeated she wasn’t. Unable to move from her position on the floor (Veitch) provided the victim a pillow for her head.”
Veitch then went to sleep and Ms Dunne-Powell dragged herself to the bed.
“*She woke some time later sweaty and nauseous and with an urgent need to go to the toilet.
“As the Defendant slept on, the Victim dragged herself to the en-suite toilet,” the summary says.*
“On making it to the toilet she collapsed on the floor and heard the Defendant yell ‘what the f** going on now’ as he entered the bathroom.”**
Ms Dunne-Powell pleaded with Veitch to call an ambulance but he said “I’m not having an ambulance come to this house.”
He eventually took her to the Auckland Emergency Department at 4am, leaving her there at 6am due to work commitments.
*“As a result of the assault the Complainant received a traumatic haematoma, a sprain to the sacroiliac ligament and two fractures to the spine which were causative of an on-going nerve problem.
“Resulting muscle loss has caused a physical disfigurement in that area of the back.”*
Devlin can get fucked, hes got history too doesnt he?
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@virgil Devlin does have history, in the first one he tries to front foot it but his story doesn't add up. Why would the cops arrest him for simply sitting on the bonnet?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4574358/Devlin-outs-himself-in-disorderly-behaviour-case
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/5048324/Martin-Devlin-removed-from-plane-policeMy sister knew him in the 80s before he had any sort of media career, he was a cock then and trying to pass himself off as a male feminist presumably in a vain effort to score.
Since I bought up Jay Jay, remember this? Jason Reeves career went in a bit of a nose dive after this. He does drive on Coast fm while they carried on with their breakfast show, tv shows and books etc http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10331495
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@virgil said in Veitch is done:
@nepia said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2427247/Tony-Veitch-police-file-released
Damn, I've never read that before - he really is a cock of the highest order. Fuck him and fuck his career.
Yup what a piece of shit.
Heres his highlight reel for those not wanting to read the whole article..
*It contains “Version 1, Summary of Facts” which was written to be presented in court by the Crown.
The summary refers to allegations of assault around charges later dropped. The first of the dropped charges was between March 15, 2002 to April 19, 2003 when Ms Dunne-Powell arrived at Veitch’s home where they argued.*
“During the argument the Defendant (Veitch) stood in front of the Complainant’s face, forcing her backward against a wall,” the summary of facts in the police file says.
Ms Dunne-Powell slid down the wall toward the floor and “and as she moved to escape sideways (Veitch) kicked her two to three times to the back of the thigh”, it said.
The next charge related to an incident between April 14, 2003 and April 9, 2005 at a cottage in Mangawhai. The couple argued and Veitch grabbed Ms Dunne-Powell and threw her on a bed, according to the file.
The police file says: “The Defendant stood over the Complainant shouting at her as she lay on her back, then picked up a glass of water from the side table and threw the content into the Complainant’s face. At one point during the assault the Defendant punched a hole in the wall of the cottage.”
Another incident occurred on June 3, 2005 at the Novotel in Rotorua, according to the summary.
In the room Veitch grabbed Ms Dunne-Powell from “behind with both hands and lifted her off her feet and threw her onto the bed", the police file said.
The summary of facts file says he pinned her to the bed and she later fled.
At Veitch’s St Heliers Bay home on July 8, 2005 the two argued again. Veitch chased her upstairs into the bedroom and then blocked her escape.
“As (Ms Dunne-Powell) lowered herself to the floor to get away (Veitch) kicked her in her right thigh with a force so hard it spun her onto her back,” the summary says.
He kicked her twice more and she suffered severe bruising. On the morning of July 5, 2005 at the home they argued again.
In December 2005 at the home Veitch grabbed Ms Dunne-Powell “**by both arms and pulled her out of the room and down the stairs to the front door entrance.”
Inside the front door he kicked her a number of times on both legs.**
However, the incident that related to the charge Veitch pleaded guilty to, is also in the file.
It occurred on January 29, 2006 where a heated argument occurred. Veitch kicked her two to three times in her back.“The blows caused the complainant to collapse on the floor screaming. (Veitch) crouched down beside the complainant and asked if she was ‘OK’ as she repeated she wasn’t. Unable to move from her position on the floor (Veitch) provided the victim a pillow for her head.”
Veitch then went to sleep and Ms Dunne-Powell dragged herself to the bed.
“*She woke some time later sweaty and nauseous and with an urgent need to go to the toilet.
“As the Defendant slept on, the Victim dragged herself to the en-suite toilet,” the summary says.*
“On making it to the toilet she collapsed on the floor and heard the Defendant yell ‘what the f** going on now’ as he entered the bathroom.”**
Ms Dunne-Powell pleaded with Veitch to call an ambulance but he said “I’m not having an ambulance come to this house.”
He eventually took her to the Auckland Emergency Department at 4am, leaving her there at 6am due to work commitments.
*“As a result of the assault the Complainant received a traumatic haematoma, a sprain to the sacroiliac ligament and two fractures to the spine which were causative of an on-going nerve problem.
“Resulting muscle loss has caused a physical disfigurement in that area of the back.”*
Devlin can get fucked, hes got history too doesnt he?
Far out , now I feel guilty listening to his show ,
Knew there was some history , but living overseas the finer details escaped me , had no idea it was that bad ,
The funny thing is , i I tuned in sometimes because of the content , he got the good interviews the day after a test , such as Foxy etc, But always thought he was a bit of a Toss
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I think that most of the bolded stuff was never challenged in court, ie the 5-6 dropped charges, but it paints a picture of an utter fluffybunny. I get Devlin sounding off about people making a stand after the fact. But Veitch has no one to blame but himself.
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@paekakboyz said in Veitch is done:
I think that most of the bolded stuff was never challenged in court, ie the 5-6 dropped charges, but it paints a picture of an utter fluffybunny. I get Devlin sounding off about people making a stand after the fact. But Veitch has no one to blame but himself.
Saved no doubt due to either a lack of evidence or his ex wasn’t up for a longer more drawn out court case with extra charges included
