Bledisloe 3
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Just watched it, and fuck me that was the dumbest most stupid attacking play I’ve seen from the ABs in a long time.
Shovelling shit ball backwards and sideways, aimless kicking, giving away really dumb penalties while on attack. And that fucking kick from Havilli when you need a try with 4 minutes to play and you’re attacking inside the 22.
What happened to the pick and go after they used it to create the space for our first try - it was unsighted again.
And just errors at crucial times killed our chances in that game.DMac’s decision making was poor at the back and really put us under pressure.
They say defence wins matches, and the physicality we defended with should have been enough to get the job done with just a little bit of smart play. But unfortunately we so so fucking clueless when we had the ball that impressive defence was neutralised.
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Of the starting 15 last night, we were probably missing at least 6 first choice players. It has probably been awhile since we have been that short? In contrast the wallaby side was near full strength?
- (Moody)
- Coles
- (Franks)
- Whitelock
- (BBBR)
- (Kaino)
- Cane
- Read
- Smith
- (BB)
- Ioane
- SBW
- Crotty?
- (Dagg/NMS)
- (Smith)
I think the game highlighted we are missing some depth at lock, 6,8,10 and the midfield just isn't clicking consistently.
This wallaby side outplayed us and deserved to win. Plenty for the coaches to think about.
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@gunner said in BLEDISLOE 3:
@chimoaus Kaino isn’t first choice, he’s been waterboy all RC.
I know what you’re saying, but no excuses, this the the All Blacks for god sakes and I expect better!
Yeah I agree however had he not had is affair I suspect he would have been challenging for a start. IMO he is still the better player.
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@gunner said in BLEDISLOE 3:
Shovelling shit ball backwards and sideways
Yes, but sometimes that shit shoveling turns into a piece of individual brilliance and a try is scored.
The ABs have tended to keep the ball alive instead of taking the traditionally safe option other teams might. Live by the sword etc
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our kicking from hand was pants...how many did Folau, thier best attacking player take without needing to take more than a few steps?
We didnt play very smart.
Not sure if mentioned, but after Folou made what I think was his first decent break with that nice off-load, the next ruck, you see an AB player get cleaned out and both is feet were vertical way over his head as he went down, thought we'd see a bit more of that, but nothing was made of it at all.
Thought Barnes was shit, he missed a good chunk of knock ons and er, flat passes, was one at a pivotal point where Genia picked it at the back of the ruck, bobbled it and regathered it off the back of one of his players right in front of him.
Our attack looked very BLackadderish....
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was that the first time they have run Cane 80?
The impact of our subs this year has been poor, in fact you could say been a negative of our game.
Last night 2 moments stand out, Pat T dropped one cold in the 22, and then that dumb shoulder of Ofa, one as we were building, the other with a great counter opportunity.
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Overall disappointing result for ABS some needed to stand up and didn't. Wallabies have been building but did the game mean much?? that added motivation that counts for 1-2% that is the difference between winning and losing international matches the ABs just didn't have it.
With a full strength Wallabies and All Blacks missing a few players it took the wallabies till the 80th to secure the game and heading into the next couple of years I still worry for them. They have relied too much on Genia (who has been awesome) Beal, Kepu, TPN, Hooper etc, these players are being played for 80 minutes every week as they have to with no other options. I fear they will be played out of form and burnt out when 2019 comes around.
For ABS Lacked 'firepower' or xfactor. in forwards only Read and backs SBW and Naholo looked likely tonight. I know players out but Coles and Whitelock in forwards have not provided the big moments as they have in past (although still great players.) Crotty and especially Sopoaga then McKenzie when moved to 10 did not direct us around at all.
Overall I though our D was good but our attack lacked spark and hardly ever looked dangerous. I think ABs are playing more reserved overall after being scared by linespeed that NH teams have brought, looking less likely, especially in wet conditions. -
@98blueandgold said in BLEDISLOE 3:
Overall I though our D was good
There were a couple of big hits and some periods of solid work, but you did not deal with line breaks well at all.
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@taniwharugby said in BLEDISLOE 3:
Not sure if mentioned, but after Folou made what I think was his first decent break with that nice off-load, the next ruck, you see an AB player get cleaned out and both is feet were vertical way over his head as he went down
Saw that. Barnes was right there and the TMO must have seen it.
Lot of neck rolls last night too. Like the officials have forgotten about it.
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@taniwharugby he was right there when your blokes were crawling on the deck illegally as well
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@nta and when one of your wingers was held, got up and went and pulled down by the same player not letting go, but we could play this game all day!
Face it, Barnes was shite last night, he's normally good bar the odd clanger but all round he was poor last night, I guess at least he was shite for both teams, thats ok isnt it?
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@taniwharugby I think he relaxed some interpretations based on the conditions.
e.g. he started the match very tough on the scrum pre-engage space, but backed off unless it was a serious collapse. A couple went to deck later but he let them play.
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@taniwharugby said in BLEDISLOE 3:
our kicking from hand was pants...how many did Folau, thier best attacking player take without needing to take more than a few steps?
This, we have been punishing teams for years for their bad kicking. Last night we did what teams usually do to us, we fed their back three copious amount of uncontested ball. We basically handed over possession time and time again and it hurt us in the end via tackle count and missed tackles.
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@taniwharugby said in BLEDISLOE 3:
was that the first time they have run Cane 80?
Poor bastard was out on his feet, game stats say Cane made 27 tackles.
Interestingly the highest wallaby was Mcmahon with 11.
Squire & Whitelock made second most tackles with 15.
Some shocking defensive stats were Crotty made 3 tackles, missed 4 and turned it over twice. And not much better attacking wise with 2 runs for 12m.