Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final
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Jack O'Piper is a good ref and communicates well. I'm sure he won't be consciously biased. And all refs tend to favour the home team. I'd have preferred Gardner, who I rate a notch above Glen (Ireland's favourite ref).
The bigger issue is the TMO, and, in particular, who controls the replays which are chosen. IMHO that is where the most heinous bias is shown. I'm recalling Messam tackle, which Burger did not complain about real time, but TV replays forced ref to come back to after the event.
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What pisses me off is where was this merit based ref selection during the Lions series? Instead of having a guy like Nigel Owens in charge we get those french fucks because they are "neutral".
I understand it's SANZAAR vs WR but some consistency wouldn't hurt.
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SuperSports analysis on lineout and mauls
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Unchanged Lions squad for the final:
1 Jacques van Rooyen
2 Malcolm Marx
3 Ruan Dreyer
4 Andries Ferreira
5 Franco Mostert
6 Jaco Kriel ©
7 Albertus “Kwagga” Smith
8 Ruan Ackermann
9 Ross Cronje
10 Elton Jantjies
11 Courtnall Skosan
12 Harold Vorster
13 Lionel Mapoe
14 Ruan Combrinck
15 Andries CoetzeeReserves
16 Akker vd Merwe
17 Corne Fourie
18 Johannes Jonker
19 Lourens Erasmus
20 Cyle Brink
21 Faf de Klerk
22 Rohan Janse van Re
23 Sylvian Mahuza -
Am i missing something here, these guys keep on talking about sacking is tackling 1 player. But the maul laws is about tackling the ball carrier, whether the maul is set or not if the ball player is tackled its within the law
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Razor has also named an unchanged squad.
This is the Crusaders team for the final:
1 Joe Moody
2 Codie Taylor
3 Owen Franks
4 Scott Barrett
5 Sam Whitelock (C)
6 Jordan Taufua
7 Matt Todd (VC)
8 Kieran Read
9 Bryn Hall
10 Richie Mo'unga
11 Seta Tamanivalu
12 Ryan Crotty (VC)
13 Jack Goodhue
14 Israel Dagg
15 David HaviliRESERVES
16 Ben Funnell
17 Wyatt Crockett
18 Michael Alaalatoa
19 Luke Romano
20 Pete Samu
21 Mitchell Drummond
22 Mitchell Hunt
23 George Bridge -
@Stargazer it's amazing to think that he's coached a side to the top of the comp. He comes across as a lanky laid back surfer who's coaching a social pub side, co-sponsored by the local hemp store and KFC.
Seems a really good coach though, and the pros love him just as much as the schoolboys.
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@Rebound said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:
And the laws of the game does not clarify collapsing of the maul at all
Because you aren't collapsing a maul, you're tackling the ball carrier. Given the definition of a maul requires the ball carrier to be held by an opposition player, if you immediately tackle him, he isn't held.
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@antipodean I saw something on TV today saying that no Crusader fans would likely have been unable to get to go to watch this game (unless they anticipated this game weeks ago) as it takes about a month for a SA Visa at present
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@taniwharugby Lots of Crusaders fans already in SA!
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@taniwharugby said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:
@antipodean I saw something on TV today saying that no Crusader fans would likely have been unable to get to go to watch this game (unless they anticipated this game weeks ago) as it takes about a month for a SA Visa at present
That's really shit.
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@Frye said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:
@taniwharugby said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:
@antipodean I saw something on TV today saying that no Crusader fans would likely have been unable to get to go to watch this game (unless they anticipated this game weeks ago) as it takes about a month for a SA Visa at present
That's really shit.
That SA is responding in kind to NZ's lead?
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@MiketheSnow said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:
@Frye said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:
@taniwharugby said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:
@antipodean I saw something on TV today saying that no Crusader fans would likely have been unable to get to go to watch this game (unless they anticipated this game weeks ago) as it takes about a month for a SA Visa at present
That's really shit.
That SA is responding in kind to NZ's lead?
From a rugby perspective it is shit for Crusaders fans.
From a political perspective.... I'm not sure. If they've slowed the process down for NZers than that is petty. But if NZ passports are just going through the same process as everyone else now then that I guess is just indicative of the terribly slow bureaucratic process in SA government in general.
For the record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index
NZ is ranked the 2nd safest country in the world. South Africa is ranked 123rd.Kind of deluded to think the threat to each country is anywhere close to being in the same ballpark.
