All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@pakman sorry what? To start with in what world does Itoje not make that side? He was the best lock on the field. Read also got smashed backwards all night - Toby F made ground.
Itoje was part of an eight man pack which did not subdue the AB seven. He was pinged offside at least twice and could or should have been more, penalties which threatened to sink Lions. Pulled off a good maul sack and made a couple of big tackles but the collective result suggests the less showy aspects were nothing special. I simply wouldn't have swapped either of the two AB locks for him. TF was good and more debatable, but again operating in a pack one short swings it to Read for me.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@pakman sorry what? To start with in what world does Itoje not make that side? He was the best lock on the field. Read also got smashed backwards all night - Toby F made ground.
Do you actually think Itoje was the best lock on the field?
I found his performance in the test to be almost the textbook definition of not living up to the hype.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Quit the whingeing lads, we're not Irish. Naholo concussion doesn't automatically equal foul play. Reckon there is zero zilch nada chance O'Brien will be cited for that.
Well he has been. Doubt he'll get to play next week. A reckless swinging arm that concusses a player = take a rest son.
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@jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@jegga You guys are no fun!
Planet rugby is just a click away bro.
I've already watched all the clips over there, they're too scatterbrained at the moment. Although the French have posted good videos of the incidents on Youtube. I guess they want to see how their star refs go on the tour.
I wouldn't go over there for a while , Kid A must have an old fellow like Ray Charles elbow when he tried roller skating by now.
I tend to only notice Kid A when winding him up for being a movie snob on the film thread.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Quit the whingeing lads, we're not Irish. Naholo concussion doesn't automatically equal foul play. Reckon there is zero zilch nada chance O'Brien will be cited for that.
Well he has been. Doubt he'll get to play next week. A reckless swinging arm that concusses a player = take a rest son.
Any suspension for SOB will be the outrage of the week for B&I media. SH conspiracy and all that, reference will be made to Sam Cane's dark arts-at-speed brutalisation of Rob Henshaw later year.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia almost agree but accidental doesn't matter nowadays. Contact to head with swinging arm resulting in concussion and player leaving the field. O'Brien is a wonderful player and clean as but shit happens and the rules are about cleaning up technique as much as dirty play
I actually can't see the swinging arm. Of four of us watching together last night, 2 could see the arm and 2 couldn't - we need a Green and Gold style breakdown ....
Look for the end on replay
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Hansen needs get really angry about this, I mean it is clearly a personal attack on him, in retaliation to him getting the Herald to post the clown pic of Gats.
UK tabloid The Sun has hit back after the All Blacks' shock 24-21 loss to the Lions by depicting coach Steve Hansen as a clown.
The retort comes after the Herald caricatured Lions coach Warren Gatland as a clown following their first test defeat to the All Blacks at Eden Park last weekend.
The Sun's image shows Gatland throwing a pie into the face of a red-nosed Hansen in a clown outfit with the headline "CLOWN JEWELS".
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11884910
Good, they've stooped to our level.
Moral low ground surrendered.
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haha, the dissection continues, UK press seem to be digging for a controversial statement (its been raining most of the day so stuck inside)
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/hansen-sbw-knows-he-made-a-mistake/
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@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia almost agree but accidental doesn't matter nowadays. Contact to head with swinging arm resulting in concussion and player leaving the field. O'Brien is a wonderful player and clean as but shit happens and the rules are about cleaning up technique as much as dirty play
I actually can't see the swinging arm. Of four of us watching together last night, 2 could see the arm and 2 couldn't - we need a Green and Gold style breakdown ....
Look for the end on replay
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Itoje's workrate helped the Lions - he was their top tackler (and missed a couple) and caused a few problems for the AB's at rucks and mauls.
Where he was most noticeable was standing about a yard offside at each ruck - not sure he'll get away with that every game.
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@booboo pretty innocuous really, but be interesting to see how they treat it given an incident with potential for injury can see a RC, while one that didnt look much, but resulted in a player leaving the field.
As already stated, dont think this needed sanction (although didnt get anything on-field, so if meets RC threshold...) but felt MV should.
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@PecoTrain standing a yard off side all the time means you dont have to work so hard to get to the player with the ball
