Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?
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@Bones said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
When you pass the ball, on the pullback to build momentum, are you passing the ball?
Not if you dummy...
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@antipodean well why is it called a dummy pass? Misleading bloody language and it's propensity to not be technically correct!
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@Bones said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
@Snowy ok... when I approach the entrance to my flat, I walk past it. Sure I may be walking away from the entrance technically, but I'd say I'm approaching the entrance. When you pass the ball, on the pullback to build momentum, are you passing the ball?
WTF! When you approach your flat and walk past? the things that people argue about on here is gold!
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@taniwharugby can't walk through walls bro!
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@Bones seriously bro, too early to be drinking or taking drugs!
Plus, if a half back passes like you say, he gets shit for not being fast enough
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@taniwharugby said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
@Bones seriously bro, too early to be drinking or taking drugs!
Plus, if a half back passes like you say, he gets shit for not being fast enough
I'm struggling to make sense of this...
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@hydro11 said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
@Bones said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
@Snowy if your approach to kick includes steps in the opposite direction, then you're fair game.
Depends what you consider the kickers approach to kick. Cruden does a little shake before he kicks the ball, is that part of his approach to kick?
No. IMO it's like (what used to be ) Dan Biggar's pre kick dance.
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@Snowy said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
@Bones said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
I'm struggling to make sense of this...
You're struggling to understand the word "approach".
Au contraire, it seems I'm not, as is shown every rugby game. Maybe you're struggling to understand the interpretation... surely you haven't only just started watching?
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@Snowy said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
This is lack of enforcement is not a change but really pissing me off.
9.B.4 The opposing team
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All players of the opposing team must retire to their goal line and must not overstep that line until the kicker begins the approach to kick or starts to kick. When the kicker does this, they may charge or jump to prevent a goal but must ...The key bit being "kicker begins the approach to kick or starts to kick." It seems that moving backwards qualifies as approaching or starting these days?
Watching the U20 match and England charging way too early. Perofeta moves away from the ball and they go at him.
IMO Owens got it right v Ireland in 2014 when Cruden had a second shot.Interesting that the law says "the kicker begins the approach". One could interpret "the approach" with the noun definition.
"a way of dealing with a situation or problem."
Someone takes a step to the side or back, in their kick routine could be seen to be starting their approach.
I don't mind how it is dealt with by and large these days.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
@Snowy said in Rugby rules (or lack there of) that grind your gears?:
This is lack of enforcement is not a change but really pissing me off.
9.B.4 The opposing team
(a)
All players of the opposing team must retire to their goal line and must not overstep that line until the kicker begins the approach to kick or starts to kick. When the kicker does this, they may charge or jump to prevent a goal but must ...The key bit being "kicker begins the approach to kick or starts to kick." It seems that moving backwards qualifies as approaching or starting these days?
Watching the U20 match and England charging way too early. Perofeta moves away from the ball and they go at him.
IMO Owens got it right v Ireland in 2014 when Cruden had a second shot.Interesting that the law says "the kicker begins the approach". One could interpret "the approach" with the noun definition.
"a way of dealing with a situation or problem."
Someone takes a step to the side or back, in their kick routine could be seen to be starting their approach.
I don't mind how it is dealt with by and large these days.
The ref usually judges it as starting whatever movement that doesn't stop until boot meets ball. If you line up the kick then place a foot behind as you go to kick then you are fair game. While you are placing your feet before lining up the kick, you aren't.
Most kickers work out their own routine while young and if it works they stick with it. This can mean they can risk charge downs as the level gets higher.
A way to avoid the backward step is to line up with a foot already back ala Quade Cooper. His technique may look strange but it is quite practical. You want to have the hip of your kicking foot come over the ball with the hips and shoulders facing the posts. -
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