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Frye

Oracle seems to have closed the gap with their 5 days off.
Races were a lot tighter today.
TNZ lead 4-1

We won the first race by 2 minutes

We're still getting it right a lot more than they are. No need to panic just yet.

Crucial

@mimic said in Americas Cup:

Oracle seems to have closed the gap with their 5 days off.
Races were a lot tighter today.
TNZ lead 4-1

We won the first race by 2 minutes

We're still getting it right a lot more than they are. No need to panic just yet.

Yeah, at this stage things look reasonably even as both teams can make errors which the other will win off.
If we get an even win/loss from here we take it out.

Virgil

We did drop 2 races each to BAR and Artamis so no need to panic.. yet

rotated

Still seemed like Burling out maneuvered Spithill in almost every phase today and just got unlucky with a dead spot of wind toward the end of race 2 there. Oracle are no doubt quicker than last weekend - but not so quick that ETNZ should not close this out.

Mokey

I need to take a deep breath and remind myself Dean Barker is not involved. That dude's record when it counts is truly awful.

But holy shit moment - Burling is only 26, and his list of achievements in sailing is pretty phenomenal.

Wairau

Just beautiful start, hook by PB.
The redemption is huge for me, 14 years after we lost the cup, 16 years after losing another PB, 4 years after we lost in San Fran, we are dominating.
Redemption feels a little like 2011 and 2015...
Go NZ!

In a way, I wish we could have 10 more races to really rub this dominance into Coutts' face, but let's just be pleased with the wins!

Mokey

So, ETNZ are up 6-1 after two wins today, and are now on match point.

mimic

@Wairau said in Americas Cup:

Just beautiful start, hook by PB.
The redemption is huge for me, 14 years after we lost the cup, 16 years after losing another PB, 4 years after we lost in San Fran, we are dominating.
Redemption feels a little like 2011 and 2015...
Go NZ!

In a way, I wish we could have 10 more races to really rub this dominance into Coutts' face, but let's just be pleased with the wins!

Im sure people were wishing San Fran was first to 7 instead of first to 9..
But yeah, some great sailing by PB and his team.. Another 100% fly time..

taniwharugby

Interesting comment i heard this morning about Oracle.

They have spent the past few years and millions of dollars on tech, development and training for this campaign, yet in 5 days they find more speed.

Hooroo

What's the difference between the Skipper and the Helmsman. I assumed it was one of the same thing but I see someone else is skipper on Emirates

booboo

@Hooroo said in Americas Cup:

What's the difference between the Skipper and the Helmsman. I assumed it was one of the same thing but I see someone else is skipper on Emirates

Ashby is TNZ skipper too, not Burling

Paekakboyz

@mimic almost like drugs in most high performance sports!! except they deny that's the case in most instances

I can tolerate the spying (just), but the litigation and just outright loading of rules etc to favour the holders really gets me. Sometimes it feels like the sailing is a sideline, then they get on the water and all that extra stuff falls away.

taniwharugby

gotta say Burling is one cool operator!

Doesn't give much away.

Virgil

Any footage yet of Coutts yelling at and abusing Spithill?

Canerbry

@Virgil Not yet, we do have Burling waving goodbye to Jimmy
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11881963

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KiwiPie

@taniwharugby Apparently they made the boat 100kg lighter by taking bits off it. But presumably those bits were doing something so maybe they sacrificed something else to do it.

Boats now looking very similar in speed but it doesn't look like Oracle can afford to lose the start. Wonder if the fact that the NZ roles are shared between Burling, Ashby and Tuke means they can react a lot quicker - especially as they all seem to be thinking the same way (given how much time Burling and Tuke have spent sailing together)

taniwharugby

@KiwiPie even the image in the post before yours, highlights the aerodynamic advantage ETNZ has with the grinders vs cyclists

canefan

@KiwiPie said in Americas Cup:

@taniwharugby Apparently they made the boat 100kg lighter by taking bits off it. But presumably those bits were doing something so maybe they sacrificed something else to do it.

Boats now looking very similar in speed but it doesn't look like Oracle can afford to lose the start. Wonder if the fact that the NZ roles are shared between Burling, Ashby and Tuke means they can react a lot quicker - especially as they all seem to be thinking the same way (given how much time Burling and Tuke have spent sailing together)

Originally Spithill was sceptical of our division of labour but many of the comms have suggested this is a signicant key to our success. The responsibilities of Spithill and Slingsby have been divided in such a way that they can concentrate on their individual tasks more keenly, ie Ashby and his Xbox and Tuke trimming the foils while riding the bike

Virgil

Will oracle undo some of their upgrades/changes now?
Sounds like they pretty much have an uncontrollable boat.
A lot faster but harder to sail and keep stable. If they hadn't fucked up the start and or come off the foils they probably would have cleaned us up.
Sounds like they are running a V8 engine in a Toyota Vitz body, and run by a pretty clueless crew

rotated

This cup buts a bit of a different spin on Spithill's career a bit.

Comprehensively out-sailed by Burling at the starts and many unforced errors under pressure both at the start and in key moments on the water.

The Silver Fern

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