Parker v ??
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@kiwiinmelb I can't agree with you about Bellew being the best cruiser in the world. He'd barely be top 5 that's why he went to HW to avoid challenges at CW and make himself look like a hero when he knows he's out of his depth there.
He got lucky against Haye where he was losing comfortably before Haye got injured mid fight.
It should be an easy night for Parker if this fight gets made.
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@African-Monkey Ill put my hand up and say i havnt watched a lot of cruiserweight and may have been sucked in by his marketing people ,
But I still see it a s a danger fight for Joseph ,( who im struggling to get impressed by) but I guess they all are from here now ,
You watching the Canelo v Chavez jnr fight today ?
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@kiwiinmelb Haha fair enough. The CW division is stacked at the moment and probably my favourite division along with HW. Also, it's possibly the strongest it's ever been and tbh, I would rather see Bellew back there taking on the likes of Usyk, Briedis, Huck etc but the money is better at HW so I can't fault him for wanting bigger paydays.
I though Parker did some good things last night, unfortunately it also showed that he may be lacking in power at the top level but he does possess some very good boxing skills.
Yup hope to catch it. Should be a cracker of a fight.
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@African-Monkey my favourite area is around welterweight-junior middle- middleweight,love the skills , depth and quality
Canelo is probably my favourite fighter right now and contrary to popular opinion , I tip him to end triple g s reign if they can get that deal done ,
But today presents its own big challenge, Chavez bangs hard , and canelo has jumped from his usual 154 to 166 pounds to make this fight happen -
Surely the point of boxing is to win and maximise income? Couple of ways to do this.... win A LOT. Or have great stopping power. Tua had stopping power.... got him a title fight. Didn't make him a success. I think Parker is boxing clever. He knows that if he got tagged and lost any of these fights he would be set back years. It is a risk reward thing . His only goal last night was the win, it was not about impressing us.
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It's official , the most anticipated fight in boxing is on ,
Golovkin vs Canelo 16th September
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Parker v ??:
Surely the point of boxing is to win and maximise income? Couple of ways to do this.... win A LOT. Or have great stopping power. Tua had stopping power.... got him a title fight. Didn't make him a success. I think Parker is boxing clever. He knows that if he got tagged and lost any of these fights he would be set back years. It is a risk reward thing . His only goal last night was the win, it was not about impressing us.
I doubt he lacks power, I think he lacked a fight planto use that power as the risk wasn't worth it.I agree with all of that but in saying that I honestly don't see him having the sort of banging ability to worry a guy like Joshua.
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Interesting stuff - sounds as though Dean's side of things have been progressing more smoothly. Higgins had the Parker fight and the 10's, both ended up a bit limp. Even though they had the rug pulled out from under them with the Fury fight.
I think Arum holds the rights to Joe in the US - Higgins seems focused on the UK scene as that's where the majority of the action is.
Feel for Joe, maybe he needs a full change in management and coaching? Certainly doesn't seem to be learning any new defensive skills, and eventually that will catch up with him.
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Higgins seems like such a twat.
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What the last fight shows, more than anything, is that Barry has not progressed as a trainer since the Tua title shot.
Yes Parker lacked the power to KO the big fella but if you look closely his punches were being caught on the glove. It was good defense against heavy punches. I have no doubt if he'd connected flush with just one of those power punches we'd be talking a little more positively about Parker.
It was a stupid idea to use this guy in the fight having been in there with Parker so recently. But the major problem and where Barry comes in is that he did not have a plan b.
Just like when Tua got jabbed out of the building by Lewis. There was no contingency. The good trainers are in their element when a fight doesn't go according to plan. They see another opening for their fighter to attack. With Barry he either sees this opening but lacks the respect of his fighter to adopt a new fight plan mid fight or most likely does not see the opening.
Should have been raining in the kidney punches every single time he found himself being held by the back of the head. If he'd it targeted that area it would have been a different fight. Conaju would have avoided the clinch and holding the head. All Barry had to say was attack the body. To me from what I heard from the corner and post fight Barry didn't have a clue how to change shit up. Also the same odd defensive frailties are still there.
Parker needs a new trainer. Barry is good at spotting talent but I don't think he's good at getting the best out of his fighters.
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@taniwharugby He looks like a fish. Can't say I'm much of a fan of Lonergan either.
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@raznomore the problem for joe now, in boxing circles around the world , people are becoming aware who he is , but they are mocking him a bit , they arent taking him too seriously.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:
@raznomore the problem for joe now, in boxing circles around the world , people are becoming aware who he is , but they are mocking him a bit , they arent taking him too seriously.
Which means they need to put their money where their mouths are (on both sides)
It does appear that JP has to choose which direction he will now go. If he goes to the US then Arum will likely set him up against Wilder. That could be good for JPs development because Arum may insist on some fresh training as well.
The other path is obviously to the UK with AJ the end game. For AJ it would make sense to grab at JPs belt to consolidate things back for Fury. Before that happens though I reckon the best path for JP is to get some profile against Bellew.
JPs big problem now is what happens if he gets a loss. The wrong loss could send him to the wilderness for a long time as the only attraction he currently has is the belt. -
@kiwiinmelb On the other hand, they all seem to want to fight him - and not surprisingly, because he has a belt.
The official" rankings are actually a complete shambles....
http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2
the boxrewc rankings might be as close as anything to the truth...though I doubt this links directly to the Heavyweight rankings. {edit: yeah - you need to do your own search}
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@Chris-B. Whyte and Bellew are pretty keen , and are prob good options for Joe
the bigger fish AJ , Vlad , Tyson Fury seem more interested in the money fights
This is after the coverage of the fight , Whyte mouthing off ,
