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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    Reading between the lines , this fight is going to happen ,

    Hearn is saying its almost done ,

    Win lose or draw , Joe will be earning a few million , so good on him for that , regardless of what happens I guess

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    Hope this fight sparks Parker into life. He has been getting slower and duller to watch. Reckon there seems to be a sweet spot pretty early on with Barry's training style. He seems to get fighters to a pretty decent condition, then sap that right out of them. Could it be he only gets them fit to better show their natural game!!? or is that being a bit rough? Hmmm

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    They've admitted that Parker's optimal fighting weight is lower than he's been in his most recent fights. Reading between the lines the extra kilos might have helped his durability but it has affected his hand speed.

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    Still can't see this fight happening for a while tbh. I'm still expecting Lucas Browne to be next for Parker.

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    Still can't see this fight happening for a while tbh. I'm still expecting Lucas Browne to be next for Parker.

    Parker would be silly to take on anyone other than a prize fight or an easy beat. A slip up now would result in losing everything and going back to the pack as an unwanted opponent.

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    @crucial I would consider Browne as an easy beat for Parker. He's slow with little movement and has a lack of skill to trouble Parker. The only thing Browne has going for him is power and heart.

    If this fight were to happen I would back Parker either by late KO or a wide UD.

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    I'd like to see Junior Fa vs Lucas Browne.

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    @mimic Would be a very good fight but Browne is looking to cash out so unfortunately that fight will never happen.

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    A fairly tame tweet from Parker has really got to Joshua, who is now starting to come across as precious.

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    @raznomore trying to talk smack doesnt seem natural to JP

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    @taniwharugby I think if he's left to come up with this shit himself it's better than what ever cringe worthy nonsense Higgins or Barry spew up.

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    I think Hearn actually holds most of the cards to be honest despite all the noise coming out of the Duco camp ,

    Titles aside , when it comes to money Joshua can earn big bucks no matter who he fights , Joe is just another one in line , on neutral boxing sites there is far more interest in a Joshua Wilder match up than a Parker one , particularly from British fans ,

    Parker has one ticket to a big pay day ATM and that is against Joshua , even at 30 % he would be earning a lot more than he can anywhere else , by a long way , and Hearn knows it

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

    Titles aside , when it comes to money Joshua can earn big bucks no matter who he fights , Joe is just another one in line , on neutral boxing sites there is far more interest in a Joshua Wilder match up than a Parker one , particularly from British fans ,

    But Wilder wants a 50-50 split so that fight is less likely to happen. He is going to fight Ortiz.

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    @bovidae yeah he has no chance of getting that , but that is the fight Joshua fans want , they dont seem to be overly excited by a fight with Parker

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

    I think Hearn actually holds most of the cards to be honest despite all the noise coming out of the Duco camp ,

    Titles aside , when it comes to money Joshua can earn big bucks no matter who he fights , Joe is just another one in line , on neutral boxing sites there is far more interest in a Joshua Wilder match up than a Parker one , particularly from British fans ,

    Parker has one ticket to a big pay day ATM and that is against Joshua , even at 30 % he would be earning a lot more than he can anywhere else , by a long way , and Hearn knows it

    Which is exactly why JP and co are calling AJ out based on his own comments about unifying the belts. They know they aren't the biggest draw card but they are a necessary fight if AJ is going to follow his own mouth.
    The earlier they get in the ring the more chance JP has of an upset. They don't want AJ getting more top level experience before the fight.
    If you don't think a title bout will get the Brit crowds to pay big money for tickets you are kidding yourself. Wilder may be a stronger name but only AJs name matters at this point.

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    Joshua only seems to want a unification fight on his terms but I don't think what Duco are asking for is unreasonable. Forget about who might be the bigger drawcard (in the UK), it should be a 66%-33% split based on having 2 titles vs 1 title. Joshua is coming across as precious so Duco is likely betting on his ego getting the better of him, and demanding that the fight take place at the terms they want (65%-35%).

    I would find it funny if Parker ends up fighting Wilder first as the winner of that fight would then have more leverage over Hearn and Joshua.

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    @bovidae said in Parker v ??:

    Joshua only seems to want a unification fight on his terms but I don't think what Duco are asking for is unreasonable. Forget about who might be the bigger drawcard (in the UK), it should be a 66%-33% split based on having 2 titles vs 1 title. Joshua is coming across as precious so Duco is likely betting on his ego getting the better of him, and demanding that the fight take place at the terms they want (65%-35%).

    I would find it funny if Parker ends up fighting Wilder first as the winner of that fight would then have more leverage over Hearn and Joshua.

    I have to wonder if that actually is the plan by Hearn anyway. Less risky to take on one of JP and DW rather than both.

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    @bovidae said in Parker v ??:

    Joshua only seems to want a unification fight on his terms but I don't think what Duco are asking for is unreasonable. Forget about who might be the bigger drawcard (in the UK), it should be a 66%-33% split based on having 2 titles vs 1 title. Joshua is coming across as precious so Duco is likely betting on his ego getting the better of him, and demanding that the fight take place at the terms they want (65%-35%).

    I would find it funny if Parker ends up fighting Wilder first as the winner of that fight would then have more leverage over Hearn and Joshua.

    it doesnt really work like that , ( the titles) it helps

    its more about who brings the money to the table from PPV sales , that is the biggest negotiating tool for the money part ,

    Mayweather could come back with no titles and still demand more money than anyone else against title holders and get it ,

    But Parker has to get what he can from this and cash in the best he can , lose , he is in danger of slipping right down the pecking order , the opportunity may never come again

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

    @bovidae said in Parker v ??:

    Joshua only seems to want a unification fight on his terms but I don't think what Duco are asking for is unreasonable. Forget about who might be the bigger drawcard (in the UK), it should be a 66%-33% split based on having 2 titles vs 1 title. Joshua is coming across as precious so Duco is likely betting on his ego getting the better of him, and demanding that the fight take place at the terms they want (65%-35%).

    I would find it funny if Parker ends up fighting Wilder first as the winner of that fight would then have more leverage over Hearn and Joshua.

    it doesnt really work like that , ( the titles) it helps

    its more about who brings the money to the table from PPV sales , that is the biggest negotiating tool for the money part ,

    Mayweather could come back with no titles and still demand more money than anyone else against title holders and get it ,

    But Parker has to get what he can from this and cash in the best he can , lose , he is in danger of slipping right down the pecking order , the opportunity may never come again

    Agreed, and the one asset he has to force that pay off is a title that AJ wants.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    It will depend on how much Joshua wants the other 2 belts. If he really wants to unify the titles then he will have to make some concessions too. A genuine question, how much profile does Joshua have in the US?

    Wilder has never fought outside of North/Central America so I don't think he'll take a fight in the UK for peanuts.

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