How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?
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@No-Quarter said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:
It has been pretty bland around here the last couple of years. When I first came here it was epic, shit fights breaking out everywhere. Where has the passion gone? Is this a result of our recent dominance? Nobody seems to really care anymore. Even if we get a controversial selection everyone is just like "yeah well Hansen and co know better then me, I trust them". It's weak - since when have the AB coaches and selectors known better then the Fern collective? Where is the outrage?
The angst took a massive hit in the spring of 2011. 2015 all but euthanized it. Winning and stability breeds contentment. Wait until Fozzie takes over, there'll be time for the angst to come back
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@mariner4life said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:
@Chris-B. I'm taking Patty T for the Charlie, Patty T, Savea physical impact in the last quarter.
Romano has good form though, so if it's him, not big deal.
Tuipulotu is sitting on the Blues bench for a reason. Meanwhile Romano is in great form.
It's not even close.
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@mariner4life said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:
@Frye and that reason is Tana is a shit selector
And in case you hadn't noticed, this is now a cheerleader thread
Tuipulotu's attempts at maul defence have been atrocious at times.
Theres a reason Blues fans (the people actually watching the games) are largely silent about his bench selection for this game.
Also a broken record thread apparently.
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@Frye I'm hoping the maul stuff is more a Blues problem then a Pat T problem - the whole pack has been atrocious in that regard. I imagine that is less of an issue in the AB environment.
In saying that I think Romano should be our bench lock for the first test given his form this year.
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@No-Quarter he's the biggest guy in the middle of the pack, so it's not surprising that something they're not doing collectively well, is in part due to one of their most important players in that area, not pulling his weight.
I've seen him hang off the side too often for my liking, rather than jamming his head in the deepest darkest recesses of the drive.
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Hurricanes assistant coach John Plumtree has cast major doubt over Dane Coles' availability for the British and Irish Lions series.
Plumtree said the All Blacks' first choice hooker, who has been out with concussion since March 18, would not feature for the Hurricanes in Friday's Super Rugby clash against the Chiefs in Wellington.
He said it was looking highly unlikely Coles would be ready to face the Lions with the first test on June 24 in Auckland.
"He hasn't been able to train hard enough at this stage. It's hard to say whether he'll be available for any of the tests or the first test."
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@Tim downvote
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@Tim subtle
looks weak, Lions by 25
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@mariner4life subtle? Too subtle for me ... i missed whatever it was ...
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@mariner4life oh ... number 11 ...
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@Tim said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:
So it's looking increasingly like Coles and Crotty are out of the first test.
- Moody
- Taylor
- Franks
- Whitelock
- Retallick
- Kaino
- Cane
- Read
- TJP
- Barrett
- Ioane
- SBW
- ALB
- Dagg
- Smith
9 Smith
11 Savea
- Harris
- Crockett
- Faumuina
- Luatua
- Todd ... no Savea ... no Todd ... aaah no Savea
- Perenara
- Cruden
- Ioane ... no Barrett ... naaah Ioane
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@KiwiMurph In the absence of a big switch in form it's got to be TJP still.
Re: Coles - As gutting as it must be for him, I'm quite happy with the form Harris has shown since getting fit again. His set piece and physicality is excellent and he gets around the field.
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@KiwiMurph my very uninformed opinion on that is that their respective "form" means less than how they would impact the game as a 60 minute halfback or a 20 minute halfback. To me they are different positions, and therefore, if it is decided that TJP is the better starter right now, is Smith or TKB the better 20 minute halfback?
Personally i like the Smith/TJP double punch, but that's just opinion
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Hopefully the one single lesson the selectors learnt from Chicago is not to pick players out of position. They can get cute against any Tier 2 team in the world, and half of the rest - but sure as the sun rises they cannot get cute by playing anyone in a position they haven't regularly performed at a high standard too in at least Super Rugby level. So NO to S.Barrett at 6. NO to Cane on the blindside.
Smith/TJP and Cruden will be half 2/3 our bench backline, the other spot will go to a midfield I would suggest for this first test, one of SBW, ALB or Fekitoa, we are too exposed in the centres if we cop an injury in the first 10min. Whereas Beaudy can go to wing/FB, and Crudes can come on if we cop an injury in the back 3.
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Hansen is loyal and doesn't place too much stock in their Super rugby form if he knows what they can do for the ABs.
I fully expect A Smith and J Savea to be in starting XV for the 1st test. Same for Dagg, who has little or no form either (due to injury).
Looking ahead to the ABs, are we to read anything into Luatua being named at no.8 for the Blues against the B&I Lions instead of Ioane? Squire's injury might be taking longer to heal as well.
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@Bovidae
A Smith why?He's not the incumbent, he's certainly not playing better than Perenara (TKB even?) currently and was definitely out of form last year
Loyalty would suggest that the incumbent would hold sway
Dagg and Savea make it on those loyalty/injuries don't retard a selection but toilet boy has been nothing but average for about 12 months now
