Blues v Hurricanes
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@taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kiwiinmelb said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Blues are definitely better ,
Listening to them trying to put the daggers into tana today on radio sport was unfair I thought ,
I can see progress even if it isn't reflected in the wins .
Yep, unfair to judge them really until seasons end when they have had thier shot at some foreign teams, as @gunner said above, they are easily a top 8 team, but have to play the 4 top 5 teams home and away....
The thing with Tana is that he has the talent. I'll give him SBW because he wouldn't have come to the Blues otherwise. However, the Ioane brothers, Gibson, Luatua, Pulu, Nanai, Moala, Tuipulotu and Manu probably would have ended up at the Blues anyway. Auckland rugby has produced some good players and Tana is benefiting from it to an extent. I don't know what to make of Tana as a coach. He should be a long way from being sacked.
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Canes really missed Proctor tonight. Aso was MIA and they could've done with someone straightening the attack. J. Savea wasn't used enough to change the point of attack.
Blues locks were dynamite. Their work around the field was awesome.
And who was the reserve hooker for the Canes? He's got genuine speed for a big fella. The kick chase he put in down the left wing was fantastic.
What was up with that kick by Perenara with 4 minutes to go. Canes hot on attack and he chips it over to no one. Didn't find touch. Poor play.
Nanai continuing his very good form this year. He mustn't have recovered from that knock to have been taken off.
Still concerning that Pulu far too often waits and watches at the base.
Laumape, AB selection - unless there is a significant improvement in his vision, then no way.
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@hydro11 said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kiwiinmelb said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Blues are definitely better ,
Listening to them trying to put the daggers into tana today on radio sport was unfair I thought ,
I can see progress even if it isn't reflected in the wins .
Yep, unfair to judge them really until seasons end when they have had thier shot at some foreign teams, as @gunner said above, they are easily a top 8 team, but have to play the 4 top 5 teams home and away....
The thing with Tana is that he has the talent. I'll give him SBW because he wouldn't have come to the Blues otherwise. However, the Ioane brothers, Gibson, Luatua, Pulu, Nanai, Moala, Tuipulotu and Manu probably would have ended up at the Blues anyway. Auckland rugby has produced some good players and Tana is benefiting from it to an extent. I don't know what to make of Tana as a coach. He should be a long way from being sacked.
The problem with Tana is that he was not starting players like Scrafton and Nanai, look how good they were today.
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@Kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@hydro11 said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kiwiinmelb said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Blues are definitely better ,
Listening to them trying to put the daggers into tana today on radio sport was unfair I thought ,
I can see progress even if it isn't reflected in the wins .
Yep, unfair to judge them really until seasons end when they have had thier shot at some foreign teams, as @gunner said above, they are easily a top 8 team, but have to play the 4 top 5 teams home and away....
The thing with Tana is that he has the talent. I'll give him SBW because he wouldn't have come to the Blues otherwise. However, the Ioane brothers, Gibson, Luatua, Pulu, Nanai, Moala, Tuipulotu and Manu probably would have ended up at the Blues anyway. Auckland rugby has produced some good players and Tana is benefiting from it to an extent. I don't know what to make of Tana as a coach. He should be a long way from being sacked.
The problem with Tana is that he was not starting players like Scrafton and Nanai, look how good they were today.
Don't know what was going on with Nanai. Probably their best player last season.
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@hydro11 said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@hydro11 said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kiwiinmelb said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Blues are definitely better ,
Listening to them trying to put the daggers into tana today on radio sport was unfair I thought ,
I can see progress even if it isn't reflected in the wins .
Yep, unfair to judge them really until seasons end when they have had thier shot at some foreign teams, as @gunner said above, they are easily a top 8 team, but have to play the 4 top 5 teams home and away....
The thing with Tana is that he has the talent. I'll give him SBW because he wouldn't have come to the Blues otherwise. However, the Ioane brothers, Gibson, Luatua, Pulu, Nanai, Moala, Tuipulotu and Manu probably would have ended up at the Blues anyway. Auckland rugby has produced some good players and Tana is benefiting from it to an extent. I don't know what to make of Tana as a coach. He should be a long way from being sacked.
The problem with Tana is that he was not starting players like Scrafton and Nanai, look how good they were today.
Don't know what was going on with Nanai. Probably their best player last season.
Every time he gets on the field he looks AB level. We can't afford not to start him.
We are losing close games, one try from him some of those could be wins.
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@Kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
And can I say what a relief that TJ wasn't the commentator.
Yep, was good to hear Sumo calling out the weaknesses in the Blues game, laying into the lack of continuity and turnovers and not getting whinged at.
Luatua outplayed Savea who was pretty disappointing i thought, completely missing on that last blues try.
Williams outplayed by Laumape, what a muppet play not feeding Nanai on that break. Canes definitely missed Proctor though.
Congratulations to Barrett on getting through a half of rugby without seeing a card.
Jordie's set piece kicking is ace eh, but his phase kicking is a bit naff.
Jane should have been on at half time at least...
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@Bones said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
And can I say what a relief that TJ wasn't the commentator.
Yep, was good to hear Sumo calling out the weaknesses in the Blues game, laying into the lack of continuity and turnovers and not getting whinged at.
Luatua outplayed Savea who was pretty disappointing i thought, completely missing on that last blues try.
Williams outplayed by Laumape, what a muppet play not feeding Nanai on that break. Canes definitely missed Proctor though.
Congratulations to Barrett on getting through a half of rugby without seeing a card.
Jordie's set piece kicking is ace eh, but his phase kicking is a bit naff.
Jane should have been on at half time at least...
Have no problem with a commentator calling what he sees, just irritating when it's wrapped in a condescending tone and he doesn't apply it to the other team.
TJ is terrible when he gets a Blues game.
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@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Hurricanes:
Collins again in an NZ derby got exposed. He has improved during the season but his error rate is way too high.
Long term the Blues need to give Perofeta some gametime this season. Same with Nock.
When is Nock back from injury?
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@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@ACT-Crusader What does it matter? He was offside and on the ground.
I'm not disputing the YC call. They were saying it was a deliberate knock down. It wasn't. Even the replay showed he grabbed the arm.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@ACT-Crusader What does it matter? He was offside and on the ground.
I'm not disputing the YC call. They were saying it was a deliberate knock down. It wasn't. Even the replay showed he grabbed the arm.
Let's say you are right (you aren't), he was off his feet, part of the ruck and played the halfback to stop out attack in the red zone. A few paths to the YC.
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@canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
BB is unbelievable. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a 10 as influential as he is for the Canes.
Mr Carter?
Carter was also amazing, but he wasn't as influential as BB is. Barrett seems to appear out of no-where to field kicks, make tackles, give away try saving fouls, take intercepts, chip kick to himself (and on and on). Things just happen when he is anywhere near the ball.
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@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@Damo said in Blues v Hurricanes:
BB is unbelievable. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a 10 as influential as he is for the Canes.
Mr Carter?
Carter was also amazing, but he wasn't as influential as BB is. Barrett seems to appear out of no-where to field kicks, make tackles, give away try saving fouls, take intercepts, chip kick to himself (and on and on). Things just happen when he is anywhere near the ball.
He has become a total freak. I find myself expecting us to score almost everytime he touches the ball, from anywhere
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@Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:
@kiwiinmelb What were they saying? The bottom line is that he hasn't produced wins against NZ teams, and hasn't recruited a 10.
Just saying , he still isnt getting the results , still the worst team in NZ blah blah blah
Led by Phil gifford I think it was ,
I just think if you believe they are improving , you have to be careful throwing out the baby with the bathwater , when you dont know where that improvement stops
