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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    #34

    Crowe's article really stood out for me at the time. Especially (but not only) the sentiment about how many bullets everyone else has dodged over the years. Even after hearing Hughes was in hospital, I didn't assume the worst.

    Short pitched bowling and related sledging were hardly unique to Haddin, Bollinger, and Abbot.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/805163.html

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    I read a report that something that was pissing the family off was a long list of players relying "I don't recall" ad nauseam to questions. I can see their point if this is the case. Everything on that days play would be etched in my memory for years if I had been playing.

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    I think a good thing was the rapid redesign of helmets to help prevent a reoccurrence. I recall as a young lad seeing the first guys wearing motorcycle helmets playing first class cricket.

    Helmet or not, facing up to genuine pace requires bravery.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @Catogrande said in Aussie Cricket:

    I read a report that something that was pissing the family off was a long list of players relying "I don't recall" ad nauseam to questions. I can see their point if this is the case. Everything on that days play would be etched in my memory for years if I had been playing.

    If they were asked about it a year later? Two years?

    The incident itself would have wiped out everything before it on the day, for some of those blokes. The horror of the incident itself writ large and all that

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    replied to NTA on last edited by Donsteppa
    #38

    @NTA said in Aussie Cricket:

    @Catogrande said in Aussie Cricket:

    I read a report that something that was pissing the family off was a long list of players relying "I don't recall" ad nauseam to questions. I can see their point if this is the case. Everything on that days play would be etched in my memory for years if I had been playing.

    If they were asked about it a year later? Two years?

    The incident itself would have wiped out everything before it on the day, for some of those blokes. The horror of the incident itself writ large and all that

    You don't think the sheer starkness of the memory of saying 'I'm going to kill you' - and then later that day a fellow bowler doing essentially that - wouldn't somehow outlast that shock, horror, and numbness?

    I can get that remembering a random unrelated sledge from three overs earlier might not be on... but I did see Haddin remembering a general chat with Hughes about his health - so broadly it sounds like some things from some of the players were "I can't recall", and other things were remembered... which hasn't helped Mr Hughes's demeanour.

    Though to be fair, nothing short of bring back Phil really could.

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  • gollumG Offline
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    @Catogrande said in Aussie Cricket:

    I read a report that something that was pissing the family off was a long list of players relying "I don't recall" ad nauseam to questions. I can see their point if this is the case. Everything on that days play would be etched in my memory for years if I had been playing.

    Yep, the article pretty clearly points out much of their anger comes from them being interviewed a month after & the players 2 years after so a lot of variance which has led to the family being portayed as grief striken liars

    "Notwithstanding how difficult this has been for the players called to appear, the family's resentment comes after days of conflicting evidence that has effectively painted them as liars. Those close to them say the week has been much tougher on them than many had initially feared. They are aware of some of the puerile attacks on social media."

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @Donsteppa said in Aussie Cricket:

    You don't think the sheer starkness of the memory of saying 'I'm going to kill you' - and then later that day a fellow bowler doing essentially that - wouldn't somehow outlast that shock, horror, and numbness?

    As I said: "for some of these blokes".

    Everyone is going to react a different way. When an explosion happens, some run away from the blast. Some run towards it. Some amble around, incoherent. They'll all remember what happened differently.

    People at the ground were close friends with Hughes, or team mates, or largely bystanders. Everyone is going to have a different version of the story. Nobody has the truth, beyond the fact that a young man, in the prime of his life, is dead.

    How dragging it through the media is of benefit, I'm yet to figure out.

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    @NTA Take it easy feller, no-one is bagging your boys here. Yeah some sections of the media are trying to angle the whole cover up agenda but that's the media and only to be expected sadly.

    Reportedly the family feel that what was said to them nearer the time has now become "I can't recall" and they feel this is painting them as liars. However, as you say it was two years ago and people will remember things differently, maybe the family are also in this position.

    The inquest I'd assume is just normal procedure in Aus for such a tragic death, certainly not something that a private citizen (ie member of the family) could insist upon? What relevance any sledging or not has to do with the circumstances I don't know and it does seem that some of the legal people want to whip things up a bit. A sad state of affairs really.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    I'm not upset - just explaining myself better 🙂

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    @NTA said in Aussie Cricket:

    I'm not upset - just explaining myself better 🙂

    I'll allow that you're half-right 😁

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    The Michael Clarke puff piece masquerading as an interview on 60 Mins is sickening

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    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/85399483/Shane-Watson-was-part-of-tumour-on-Australian-team-says-Michael-Clarke

    I see Clarke is becoming part of the Channel Nine commentary team. Most Aussie players that I've disliked over the years I've eventually warmed to as they've started to wind down their careers, but I'm afraid Clarke is an odd man out - he just comes across as a Willis.

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    So Watson isn't a cancer but he's a tumour that could grow into a cancer?
    I think he meant to say he's a Malignant tumour, not benign.
    Pup could at least get his medical jargon correct if he's going to slam a fellow ex player.

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    @Virgil said in Aussie Cricket:

    So Watson isn't a cancer but he's a tumour that could grow into a cancer?
    I think he meant to say he's a Malignant tumour, not benign.
    Pup could at least get his medical jargon correct if he's going to slam a fellow ex player.

    watson always struck me as a relatively innocuous lump.

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    Channel Nein is under some serious fire for appointing "blokey" old boys Test players into the box, who spend most of their time wanking on about the good old days.

    Clarke did a couple of guest spots last summer, and he was one of the few in there trying to steer talk onto the game at hand, rather than what happened in the distant past.

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    replied to NTA on last edited by
    #49

    @NTA But maaate, what about that greaaat time in '97 when Warnie...

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Thing is, that could be Warney speaking about himself in the third person...

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @reprobate said in Aussie Cricket:

    @Virgil said in Aussie Cricket:

    So Watson isn't a cancer but he's a tumour that could grow into a cancer?
    I think he meant to say he's a Malignant tumour, not benign.
    Pup could at least get his medical jargon correct if he's going to slam a fellow ex player.

    watson always struck me as a relatively innocuous lump.

    He certainly made getting out LBW popular again.....

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    @MN5 probably the only all-rounder in history to spend more time appealing when he was batting than when he was bowling.

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  • barbarianB Offline
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    Don't like Clarke, but reckon he'll be a really good commentator.

    Seems 9 have listened to the backlash from last Summer. Clarke and KP are smart hires, and ditching Brett Lee is great too.

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