Aussie Cricket
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@Chester-Draws said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader who is "they"?
The selectors might be keen to pick Warner. I have my doubts, since he was toxic even without the sandpaper thing.
Will the players welcome him though? Would you want him in your team?
Will the public? What happens when he crosses the line again (or rather, has the line moved so he doesn't cross it, because he's Australian)?
I'm 99% sure the AB selectors would tell him he was never required again.
There will be pressure on the selectors to choose him given they will lose a home series to India. The public might not like him but the same public know he can score runs and unless the coaches are willing to come out and say publicly that he is a disruptive influence and he’s not wanted, then his selection will be demanded given the top order struggles.
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@ACT-Crusader and if the players don't want him?
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Cricket:
@Chester-Draws said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader who is "they"?
The selectors might be keen to pick Warner. I have my doubts, since he was toxic even without the sandpaper thing.
Will the players welcome him though? Would you want him in your team?
Will the public? What happens when he crosses the line again (or rather, has the line moved so he doesn't cross it, because he's Australian)?
I'm 99% sure the AB selectors would tell him he was never required again.
There will be pressure on the selectors to choose him given they will lose a home series to India. The public might not like him but the same public know he can score runs and unless the coaches are willing to come out and say publicly that he is a disruptive influence and he’s not wanted, then his selection will be demanded given the top order struggles.
Are you going to make him open with Bancroft? Wasn't the whole idea that Australia was going to change their culture? That's all hot air if they turn around and pick Warner.
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@hydro11 said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Cricket:
@Chester-Draws said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader who is "they"?
The selectors might be keen to pick Warner. I have my doubts, since he was toxic even without the sandpaper thing.
Will the players welcome him though? Would you want him in your team?
Will the public? What happens when he crosses the line again (or rather, has the line moved so he doesn't cross it, because he's Australian)?
I'm 99% sure the AB selectors would tell him he was never required again.
There will be pressure on the selectors to choose him given they will lose a home series to India. The public might not like him but the same public know he can score runs and unless the coaches are willing to come out and say publicly that he is a disruptive influence and he’s not wanted, then his selection will be demanded given the top order struggles.
Are you going to make him open with Bancroft? Wasn't the whole idea that Australia was going to change their culture? That's all hot air if they turn around and pick Warner.
Here’s the talking points from the Aussie media manager:
“Time away from the game, he’s done some soul searching. David has accepted his punishment and the environment of this team under Justin.”
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@Virgil said in Aussie Cricket:
And don’t forget, if someone says a nasty thing to Davy he’s allowed to walk off the ground and take the bat and ball home with him.
If that happened in Test, I think you'd blow so hard that your house would collapse, shortly before your prostate.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Cricket:
@hydro11 said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Cricket:
@Chester-Draws said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader who is "they"?
The selectors might be keen to pick Warner. I have my doubts, since he was toxic even without the sandpaper thing.
Will the players welcome him though? Would you want him in your team?
Will the public? What happens when he crosses the line again (or rather, has the line moved so he doesn't cross it, because he's Australian)?
I'm 99% sure the AB selectors would tell him he was never required again.
There will be pressure on the selectors to choose him given they will lose a home series to India. The public might not like him but the same public know he can score runs and unless the coaches are willing to come out and say publicly that he is a disruptive influence and he’s not wanted, then his selection will be demanded given the top order struggles.
Are you going to make him open with Bancroft? Wasn't the whole idea that Australia was going to change their culture? That's all hot air if they turn around and pick Warner.
Until someone said something he took Here’s the talking points from the Aussie media manager:
“Time away from the game, he’s done some soul searching. David has accepted his punishment and the environment of this team under Justin.”
He's a thin-skinned imbecile with a tremendous amount of batting talent. So the question is whether his employers value winning over his teammates hatred.
Short-term win over long-term harm.
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It's probably the most interesting story in cricket now, what happens when the bans are over?
Australia are desperate for top order talent, and these two guys are easily their best. When you are getting humbled at home, a couple of World XI players coming in is an easy fix.
But team dynamics is a huge thing, and unfortunately for the team, so is public perception. Does Smith come back as Captain? or is the limited but likable Paine retained? (his chat behind the stumps is fucking great). Do the players want Dave back? Do the public? Does Dave want to come back given the prevailing public attitude?
I think they'll both be straight back in, but Smith i doubt in leadership roles. And there will be pretty strong "good behaviour" bonds on both of them.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
It's probably the most interesting story in cricket now, what happens when the bans are over?
Australia are desperate for top order talent, and these two guys are easily their best. When you are getting humbled at home, a couple of World XI players coming in is an easy fix.
But team dynamics is a huge thing, and unfortunately for the team, so is public perception. Does Smith come back as Captain? or is the limited but likable Paine retained? (his chat behind the stumps is fucking great). Do the players want Dave back? Do the public? Does Dave want to come back given the prevailing public attitude?
I think they'll both be straight back in, but Smith i doubt in leadership roles. And there will be pretty strong "good behaviour" bonds on both of them.
Surely they have to waltz straight back in....that Australian batting line up is Black Caps 1990s bad.
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Yes, a lot is forgiven when you're getting beaten.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Cricket:
Yes, a lot is forgiven when you're getting beaten.
i pretty much said at the time they got suspended that losing to India at home would mean all was forgiven.
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@mariner4life I believe the angry lesbian is further banned from captaincy for 2 more years and Mr Self awareness can never hold a leadership position. Think it was part of the original sentence
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They'll both walk back in, but if they don't perform they'll be absolutely crucified. Ironically I think Bancroft is most tainted at the moment for opening old wounds right before the bans come to an end. Probably very unfair, but it's strange that he would open up about this now. On the other hand, doing the angry dwarf's bidding seriously derailed his career.
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The more I look at it the more I realise that Aussie cricket is analysed and covered in Australia to such a massive degree that it will never be issue or controversy free.
The coverage and exposure surrounding Aus cricket leaves nothing unturned or uninvestigated . Every interview comment is scrutinised, and hollow, ratings confession interviews that serve no positive outcome, click bait everywhere
The noise surrounding this team is ridiculous, everything, (fucken open mic comedy night behind the stumps is the latest "noise") is played out on the public stage.
Only winning quells the noise, and even then only a bit.
It's all a bit surreal for me, fuck knows how players can relax
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@Chester-Draws yeah, you're 100% right, it's not a unique situation. (Overcompensating for my innate national bias I think)
Just seems so "try hard" though. Fake
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Bahaha.
Not sure who is winning this sledge battle.
Top work all round.
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@booboo said in Aussie Cricket:
Bahaha.
Not sure who is winning this sledge battle.
Top work all round.
Read that this morning....that is awesome stuff.
How hot is Paines wife?
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Hmmm, not supporting my gut feeling that the Aussie bowlers are awesome ...
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It's a good article but, a couple of things. Australia played 10 tests in 2018. 1 at home to England, 4 away to South Africa, 2 away to Pakistan, 3 at home to India. India and South Africa are the two best teams in the world and UAE is a difficult place for pace bowlers. Also Australia doesn't have the depth. Siddle/Sayers are probably good enough but are ageing/unproven. Then they have Mitchell Marsh as sixth bowling option. Also their batsmen get skittled so they have less of a rest. Also it's only one calendar year.
It's best to just look at the player rankings:
3). Cummins
11). Hazlewood
14). Lyon
18). StarcWith the bat it is:
3. Smith
6. Warner
11. Khawaja
36. S Marsh
45. Paine
48. Hanscomb