Aussie Cricket
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Cricket:
Bumrah gets Shaun Marsh. That’s 19 for the series at 13.
Post-WWII only two players have played more innings for Australia in the top 6 and averaged less... one is his old man.
Honestly thought this guy would play 100 tests @ 45 at very least when he first came into the ODI team.
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If I was to pick a combined Australia-New Zealand test team, I would probably pick the whole Australian bowling attack. I think Boult is a better test bowler than Starc but Starc's batting would probably get him in the team.
The problem for Australia, and this has been an issue for a long time, they just can't produce any bloody batsmen. They used to be carried by Ponting, Clarke and Hussey. Then it was Smith and Warner. Some other good players have popped up like Rogers and Voges but thy haven't stuck around.
Australia has lost their two best batsmen and one of their most promising. Their best batsman, and probably the only one of test quality is Khawaja. Yet he only averages 30 away from home. I would probably pick Khawaja at six or to open in a combined New Zealand/Australian team but otherwise I would take our whole top 7. You couldn't say that too often.
I just don't see why Australia can't produce any test quality batsmen given that they used to churn them out. I do note that the Big Bash is taking up the biggest chunk of their summer. I think some players see more of a career in that. If you are a New Zealander and you want to get noticed, your best bet is still to excel in international cricket. Having said that, if one of our top guys go down we are probably back to Brownlie.
It's a shame we aren't playing them this year because I think we would beat them in a three match series, home or away. When we play them next year Smith and Bancroft will be back (probably not Warner though) and I think they will be favourites.
I think Australia should have taken the absence of their top players to blood some more new ones. They have done this with Head but also picked the Marshes and Finch. None of those are long term test players, so why pick them? I think the idea is that they want experience in there but it seems a waste of a year's cricket.
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@hydro11 said in Aussie Cricket:
I just don't see why Australia can't produce any test quality batsmen given that they used to churn them out.
It's not as simple as just T20, but it's mostly T20. Aussies have a similar appeal overseas as ABs do in Europe. When you have uncapped guys like Moises Henriques scoring big IPL contracts in 2009 (and obviously many more since - but that was the start of the rot that got us here now) unless you have a particular fetish for test cricket why would you toil away in Sheffield Shield for years as a batsman outside the test team to fashion yourself as a test batsmen when you could get quick bucks on the T20 scene with a modicum of batting ability.
Australia no longer have players the quality of Lehmann, Katich, Love, Hodge, Maher etc who were content just to wait their turn playing four day cricket - Voges was the last and they flushed him.
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Aussie can't blame the conditions for their wickets. Just a gallery of shit shots and bad technique
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Cummins proving what a waste of a spot mitch marsh is
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Cricket:
Aussie can't blame the conditions for their wickets. Just a gallery of shit shots and bad technique
Cummins showing the Aussie top order is either bereft of technical proficiency or mental strength.
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This must be the worst Australian top order that I can think of since I started watching cricket in the mid 80’s. Even that mud version had an Alan Border in the mix.
Steve Smith and David Warner will be welcomed back with open arms.
Impressive game from Cummins.
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@Donsteppa I really don't think David Warner will be "welcomed" back anywhere.
If they take Bancroft, how would you fancy him and Warner in the same team?
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@Chester-Draws said in Aussie Cricket:
@Donsteppa I really don't think David Warner will be "welcomed" back anywhere.
If they take Bancroft, how would you fancy him and Warner in the same team?
Watching their running between the wickets together would be worth the price of admission.
I think they'll welcome him back if the team aren't scoring many runs, M Marsh having already been booed at the MCG being a sign of interesting times...
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@Donsteppa said in Aussie Cricket:
M Marsh having already been booed at the MCG being a sign of interesting times...
He's not a Victorian...
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@Chester-Draws said in Aussie Cricket:
@Donsteppa I really don't think David Warner will be "welcomed" back anywhere.
If they take Bancroft, how would you fancy him and Warner in the same team?
I think they’ll roll the carpet out for Warner. Their top order is screaming for him.
Bancroft is an interesting one. His ban ended today and he’ll be back playing Big Bash tomorrow. His position in the test side prior to the ban was already being questioned as his form was iffy. I doubt he’ll be straight back in.
Finch isn’t an opener, but I think he will be given a shot in the middle order at the SCG.
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@ACT-Crusader who is "they"?
The selectors might be keen to pick Warner. I have my doubts, since he was toxic even without the sandpaper thing.
Will the players welcome him though? Would you want him in your team?
Will the public? What happens when he crosses the line again (or rather, has the line moved so he doesn't cross it, because he's Australian)?
I'm 99% sure the AB selectors would tell him he was never required again.
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@Chester-Draws said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader who is "they"?
The selectors might be keen to pick Warner. I have my doubts, since he was toxic even without the sandpaper thing.
Will the players welcome him though? Would you want him in your team?
Will the public? What happens when he crosses the line again (or rather, has the line moved so he doesn't cross it, because he's Australian)?
I'm 99% sure the AB selectors would tell him he was never required again.
There will be pressure on the selectors to choose him given they will lose a home series to India. The public might not like him but the same public know he can score runs and unless the coaches are willing to come out and say publicly that he is a disruptive influence and he’s not wanted, then his selection will be demanded given the top order struggles.
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@ACT-Crusader and if the players don't want him?
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Cricket:
@Chester-Draws said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader who is "they"?
The selectors might be keen to pick Warner. I have my doubts, since he was toxic even without the sandpaper thing.
Will the players welcome him though? Would you want him in your team?
Will the public? What happens when he crosses the line again (or rather, has the line moved so he doesn't cross it, because he's Australian)?
I'm 99% sure the AB selectors would tell him he was never required again.
There will be pressure on the selectors to choose him given they will lose a home series to India. The public might not like him but the same public know he can score runs and unless the coaches are willing to come out and say publicly that he is a disruptive influence and he’s not wanted, then his selection will be demanded given the top order struggles.
Are you going to make him open with Bancroft? Wasn't the whole idea that Australia was going to change their culture? That's all hot air if they turn around and pick Warner.
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@hydro11 said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Cricket:
@Chester-Draws said in Aussie Cricket:
@ACT-Crusader who is "they"?
The selectors might be keen to pick Warner. I have my doubts, since he was toxic even without the sandpaper thing.
Will the players welcome him though? Would you want him in your team?
Will the public? What happens when he crosses the line again (or rather, has the line moved so he doesn't cross it, because he's Australian)?
I'm 99% sure the AB selectors would tell him he was never required again.
There will be pressure on the selectors to choose him given they will lose a home series to India. The public might not like him but the same public know he can score runs and unless the coaches are willing to come out and say publicly that he is a disruptive influence and he’s not wanted, then his selection will be demanded given the top order struggles.
Are you going to make him open with Bancroft? Wasn't the whole idea that Australia was going to change their culture? That's all hot air if they turn around and pick Warner.
Here’s the talking points from the Aussie media manager:
“Time away from the game, he’s done some soul searching. David has accepted his punishment and the environment of this team under Justin.”
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And don’t forget, if someone says a nasty thing to Davy he’s allowed to walk off the ground and take the bat and ball home with him.
