Aussie Pro Rugby
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@Tim said in Aussie Rugby:
@Machpants Doesn't the NZ government fund them too, as a soft power exercise?
I don't know the details, tbh
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
What a mess, seems like RA are holding back payments so they can take over the teams
If that's a deliberate course of action, then there are people at RA far smarter than I originally believed.
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Schmidt might be a better fit than the previous two NZ coaches
He's more prescriptive, the pattern is basic but it has more phases planned up than the normal 'heads up' NZ style. I think that might work for the Aussies who have good athletes but some of them aren't the most natural union guys. I see similarities with Rod McQueen
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
The Australian, you say? One of Murdoch's NewsCorpse papers that death-rode Rugby when it became apparent RA wasn't going to play ball, writing a negative article?
You shock me, sir...
Just to defend the Australian for a second, they don't write that many positive articles.
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@NTA Just out of interest mate. have you heard anything on any of the super teams being in the shit? I have seen the odd article saying Brumbies etc were having a few problems, but not sure what's true or not. We been hearing about the NH ones of course that actually ended up folding, so I don't dismiss them outright these days.
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@Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA Just out of interest mate. have you heard anything on any of the super teams being in the shit? I have seen the odd article saying Brumbies etc were having a few problems, but not sure what's true or not. We been hearing about the NH ones of course that actually ended up folding, so I don't dismiss them outright these days.
There's no doubt that our super franchises are financially in the shit, but that's true of Australian Rugby generally.
Attendances are going down, costs aren't. TV deals aren't with what they were. The adminstration across the pro game grew fat on Fox money and were never prepared for times of scarcity.
It isn't the end, but we need to be smarter.
Hence the centralisation/alignment discussions. Got the make the operating model leaner.
It needs to happen at grassroots as well - I've mentioned Sydney alone has 4 different unions and 4 different schools competitions involved. And they often fight each other for resources. Why?
Hopefully with the Tahs now out of the NSWRU model, we can start to see some real change.
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Australia 'should thank its lucky stars' for methodical Kiwi Schmidt
After two New Zealanders failed in the top job, Australia is lucky to have a third, methodical Joe Schmidt, to take up the coaching reins.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
why any kiwi takes this job....
it's already begun, rugby superbrain Maaaardo reckons its a shit move and they should have got Larkham. No point hiring another kiwi
He's such a peasant. Perfect partnership with Kearns.
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Wallaby David Porecki extends deal with Rugby Australia and Waratahs
The Wallabies’ most recent captain David Porecki has re-signed with Rugby Australia and the NSW Waratahs until at least the end of 2026.
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Tate McDermott and Liam Wright to captain Reds again in 2024
Les Kiss has named familiar captains to lead the Queensland Reds during Super Rugby Pacific in 2024.
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@Nepia said in Aussie Rugby:
@booboo said in Aussie Rugby:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@booboo said in Aussie Rugby:
Fuck off. Hope you fail.
i hope he's a glorious success.
Like it or not kiwis, we need Aussie to be good. And alive. The ONLY way that is happening is if the Wallabies can win shit. Starting with the Bledisloe, and then the Lions.
If Joe can't win the Bledisloe back, and then they get humped 3-0 by the Lions, and fail at their home World Cup, then we're all alone at the ass end of nowhere, and economics will crush us.
It might also put the shits up NZ rugby a little if we have to actually work to win stuff down here again.
I have my reasons which I have outlined previously. My petty grudge has lasted 43 years ... Was prepared to let it ride while he was helping us. But fuck him now.
Otherwise I'd agree with you.
Yeah, it's nice to not like the Oz coach, when Rennie was coach I both wanted us to smash them but them to do well for him.
Yeah - I felt the same way about Robbie.
Of course Robbie won a lot more than Dave (58 percent vs 38 percent)
, but both of them had the good grace to only rarely beat the ABs!
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA Just out of interest mate. have you heard anything on any of the super teams being in the shit? I have seen the odd article saying Brumbies etc were having a few problems, but not sure what's true or not. We been hearing about the NH ones of course that actually ended up folding, so I don't dismiss them outright these days.
There's no doubt that our super franchises are financially in the shit, but that's true of Australian Rugby generally.
Attendances are going down, costs aren't. TV deals aren't with what they were. The adminstration across the pro game grew fat on Fox money and were never prepared for times of scarcity.
It isn't the end, but we need to be smarter.
Hence the centralisation/alignment discussions. Got the make the operating model leaner.
It needs to happen at grassroots as well - I've mentioned Sydney alone has 4 different unions and 4 different schools competitions involved. And they often fight each other for resources. Why?
Hopefully with the Tahs now out of the NSWRU model, we can start to see some real change.
So The Australian got it right then. Go read your ABC Nick….
Brumbies are in trouble, but there are some attempts at power play going on as well
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby:
So The Australian got it right then.
Certainly the bit about rugby having financial trouble, but they're well accustomed to hyperbole.
I.e. how could anyone at RA be shocked? Annual reports are released annually
and regular updates occur between the franchises and HQ all the time.And the Brumbies have made no secret about their friction with head office. It's practically their bread and butter.
Go read your ABC Nick….
Tbh I'm not sure it's mine any more
It's either Ita's or Israel's these days
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Comments on Schmidt from Dalton Papalii in a recent Herald interview -
Papalii doesn’t shy away from offering his views – such as this on Schmidt’s awkward looming switch from All Blacks assistant to Australian head coach.
“He is one of the greatest coaches I’ve had the pleasure of being under,” Papalii said. “When he came in here to the Blues I couldn’t believe how much impact he had for that one year. We missed that fine tuning from him last year.
“Having him in the All Blacks he’s A-plus, world-class. I can’t put into words how much of an exceptional coach he is. He leaves no stone unturned. When I heard he was going to the Wallabies the first couple of seconds I was a bit hurt but whatever makes him happy and whatever is good for him and his family I 100 per cent support him. I see him as a coach and also a friend. I’m rooting for him – just not on game day against Aussie.”
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That’s a good take from Pap’ailli (poss spelling blunder).
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Future AB captain, right there.
