Aussie Pro Rugby
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Finished the season with 2 wins. So we're wooden spooners in First and Third Grade, but only second last in Second Grade.
Played 22 out of a scheduled 42 games
6 Yellow Cards
1 Red CardGet our $2000 bond back from Suburban Rugby, imposed after the brawl last year that ended our season.
I went to the pub, ate food, drank scotch & dry, and finally fucking relaxed.
Leeeegend
After all that hopefilly you remember why rugby is awesome ...
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@booboo I'd be lying if I said that playing a few games this year was awful. Even when I fronted up for First Grade three times, or played two games back to back at THP, it was still the kind of exhilaration you don't often get* as a 40/41 yo fat bastard who is too unfit to play rugby. Made it to 83 caps for the club this year (52 starts).
One guy nearly my age played 19 of the 22 games we contested this year.
Being Club President though... fuck that's a tough gig when you've got a very limited volunteer pool, and playing numbers are going down the shitter, and you're being assaulted on all sides by soccer, Council, and random gibbering idiots writing into the local paper calling for the old head coach back.
Little victories is all you have. Of the eight clubs in our Division, the same four qualified for finals of all three grades next season, so we're not alone right now.
One benefit: I get to go to the Division 1 finals day, which apparently is a glorious pissup and seafood spectacular.
*Nocturnal activities with Mrs TA notwithstanding.
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http://www.aon.com.au/australia/australian-rugby-union/womens-university-rugby-sevens.jsp
This new women's rugby 7s tournament has started today in Tasmania. Eight universities, with National Sevens Players bolstering the ranks.
Macquarie Uni (NSW)
Griffith Uni (QLD)
Bond Uni (QLD)
Uni of Queensland
Uni of New England (NSW)
Uni of Tasmania
Uni of Canberra
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I think I remember this being discussed somewhere (Under 19s player punching the ref), but hadn't seen the video. It showed up in my FB feed today:
Player banned 10 years for referee shove
Newcastle and Hunter Rugby Union have banned Mailtand player Mark Meafua for 10 years after he pleaded guilty to shoving a referee last weekend during his team's grand final.
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Damo I dunno, I think this is probably a good example. 2 years allows him to come back and rebuild a career...which shouldn't be a possibility.
Why shouldn't it be a possibility? Do you believe that nobody is capable of redemption?
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@Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.
Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.
Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.
I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.
I tend to think that people who assault referees almost always do so because they can't control themselves at that particular moment. Someone in that state is not thinking at all of the consequences of their actions. Even if they were, the difference between a 2 year ban and a 10 year ban is largely immaterial for the offender at that moment. If he gave it a moments thought he wouldn't assault the referee!
I get the outrage, and I'm outraged about the incident too. I just don't think the feeling of outrage need be our master when deciding upon sentence in cases like this.
I appreciate my view is in the extreme minority - I've had a similar debate over this incident elsewhere with no supporters to my view.
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@Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.
Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.
I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.
I tend to think that people who assault referees almost always do so because they can't control themselves at that particular moment. Someone in that state is not thinking at all of the consequences of their actions. Even if they were, the difference between a 2 year ban and a 10 year ban is largely immaterial for the offender at that moment. If he gave it a moments thought he wouldn't assault the referee!
I get the outrage, and I'm outraged about the incident too. I just don't think the feeling of outrage need be our master when deciding upon sentence in cases like this.
I appreciate my view is in the extreme minority - I've had a similar debate over this incident elsewhere with no supporters to my view.
I'll support you Damo. Makes sense to me.
A ten year ban is effectively ruling him out of the sport anyway.
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nah fuck him.
Ban him for ever. 10 years is good
That little fluffybunny was simply playing out the "I'm the centre of the universe" mentality that has got the world so fucked upRefs have been sacrosanct in rugby for centuries because of the "no ifs or buts you can't do it" culture that's been handed down.
It's totally the deterent that shapes behaviour.
Finding excuses for him does nothing to address the root cause - the little shit, (like many), feels entitled to lash out on others when he fucked up.
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@Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.
The good thing is that these assaults are really really rare, and so they make headlines when they do happen. Ironically, the guy who was about to be sent off was in line for a 'best and fairest' award.
There is not always enough thanks for refs, it's a tough job and we don't have a game without it.
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@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Ironically, the guy who was about to be sent off was in line for a 'best and fairest' award.
According to this: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4907229/maitland-colt-cops-10-years-for-striking-referee/
He'd just elbowed someone after one of his guys got lifted in a tackle and things got a bit heated. So the elbow was a 10-match ban.
Someone was saying he was spotted roughing up a guy the week before, too, but it went unsanctioned.
Best & Fairest was already off the table at that stage.
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@Damo sure, I can see where you're coming from, but that's the thing right...if it's drilled into them so that it doesn't need to be an "in the moment" consideration, then that is what's needed. Players can now see this and know the outcome if they assault the ref.
I can't see how that wouldn't be a factor even in heat of the moment (which I'm not sure I buy when the guy is standing there talking to the ref for a while)
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IMHO he should have got life. Heat of the moment is in the middle of a fight or if someone had said something nasty to trigger him.The ref was just doing his job and was assaulted for it. That can never be tolerated. Shit like that sickens me.
