NH club rugby
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He needs to chat to Vunipola about how to get away with off the ball stuff like that
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@billy-tell said in NH club rugby:
Leinster are very enjoyable to watch this season. Their winger Dave Kearney certainly thinks so anyway.
Whilst I like watching rugby it doesn't quite do that for me.
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Not confirmed (yet): Beaver to Ulster
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@stargazer said in NH club rugby:
Not confirmed (yet): Beaver to Ulster
Yep it’s been on the rumor list for a while. Hopefully he can bring on Johnny McPhillips in the role.
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Six-week ban for Marler, two for Ioane
Harlequins prop Joe Marler has been suspended for a period of six weeks, meaning he will miss England’s first two Six Nations matches. Marler appeared before an independent disciplinary panel this evening after receiving a red card from referee Matt Carley against Sale. He was sent off in the 58th minute for striking with the shoulder and making contact with Sale Sharks’ TJ Ioane, contrary to law 9.12. Marler pleaded guilty to the charge. He is available to play again on Tuesday, February 20, which means he misses the Italy and Wales fixtures. The chairman of the panel Philip Evans QC said: “The panel found that contact was made with the head of TJ Ioane and as a result the mandatory entry point is mid-range. “The panel considered that the player’s previous record was such that it required an additional period of suspension of one week, however because of his plea, his conduct since the incident took place and other personal mitigation, the panel allowed some reduction.” Meanwhile, Sale’s Ioane was cited by independent citing commissioner Shaun Gallagher for striking Harlequins’ Marler with the arm, contrary to law 9.12. The incident occurred in the 53rd minute and he consented to the matter being dealt with on papers and pleaded guilty to the charge. He has been suspended for a period of two weeks and is available to play again on January 23. -
@stargazer Deserved for Marler. No sympathy.
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@stargazer said in NH club rugby:
“The panel considered that the player’s previous record was such that it required an additional period of suspension of one week, however because of his plea, his conduct since the incident took place and other personal mitigation, the panel allowed some reduction.”
This is the bullshit that needs to be removed from the disciplinary process.
We get black and white decisions on the field. Refs are instructed that contact with the head MUST be dealt with in a certain manner then the lawyers get involved and the greyest shades of grey descend over things.
'Other personal mitigation'? Bet his lawyer argued that by being an inherent fuck-knuckle his on field behaviour was simply normal for him and that should be taken into account.
When was the Ioane v Marler incident? Are the judiciary condoning retaliation in reducing Marler's sentence?
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@crucial said in NH club rugby:
@stargazer said in NH club rugby:
“The panel considered that the player’s previous record was such that it required an additional period of suspension of one week, however because of his plea, his conduct since the incident took place and other personal mitigation, the panel allowed some reduction.”
This is the bullshit that needs to be removed from the disciplinary process.
We get black and white decisions on the field. Refs are instructed that contact with the head MUST be dealt with in a certain manner then the lawyers get involved and the greyest shades of grey descend over things.
'Other personal mitigation'? Bet his lawyer argued that by being an inherent fuck-knuckle his on field behaviour was simply normal for him and that should be taken into account.
When was the Ioane v Marler incident? Are the judiciary condoning retaliation in reducing Marler's sentence?
Totally agree. And if they're going to take into account "other personal mitigation", they should at least give details of what that entails (assuming Planet Rugby has included the full text of the decision).
See text, Ioane v Marler incident was in 53rd minute; Marler v Ioane incident in 58th minute. Seems close enough to suspect retaliation.
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@stargazer said in NH club rugby:
@crucial said in NH club rugby:
@stargazer said in NH club rugby:
“The panel considered that the player’s previous record was such that it required an additional period of suspension of one week, however because of his plea, his conduct since the incident took place and other personal mitigation, the panel allowed some reduction.”
This is the bullshit that needs to be removed from the disciplinary process.
We get black and white decisions on the field. Refs are instructed that contact with the head MUST be dealt with in a certain manner then the lawyers get involved and the greyest shades of grey descend over things.
'Other personal mitigation'? Bet his lawyer argued that by being an inherent fuck-knuckle his on field behaviour was simply normal for him and that should be taken into account.
When was the Ioane v Marler incident? Are the judiciary condoning retaliation in reducing Marler's sentence?
Totally agree. And if they're going to take into account "other personal mitigation", they should at least give details of what that entails (assuming Planet Rugby has included the full text of the decision).
See text, Ioane v Marler incident was in 53rd minute; Marler v Ioane incident in 58th minute. Seems close enough to suspect retaliation.
If that's the case he should have got more time off, not less.
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@crucial was thinking the same thing, if he has gone hunting for him to avenge being twatted earlier that deserves harsher punishment.
I always tell the boys I coach you get even by smashing someone legally, has a far better impact on things than being a dirty Cnut.
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@stargazer said in NH club rugby:
What's your verdict? Toeava gets yellow for a high tackle (no penalty try awarded), but has now been cited, so the Citing Commissioner thinks it meets the red card threshold. By the way, there were 8 yellow cards in this game, 3 for Clermont and 5 for Castres.
I haven't seen the decision yet, but the French Commission de Discipline seems to have dismissed the case against Toeava. No sanction has been imposed and he's available to play. Glad they got it right.
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Nonu close to Toulon exit - reports
Speculation is mounting that former All Black Ma’a Nonu will leave Toulon for another Top 14 club at the end of the current campaign. The double World Cup winner has made no secret of the fact that he would be keen to extend his stay at the club for one more season – but mounting cashflow concerns at a club that is very much in economy mode could mean his contract will not be extended, reports in France suggest.
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@tim said in NH club rugby:
Nonu close to Toulon exit - reports
but mounting cashflow concerns at a club that is very much in economy mode...
Comic book sales a bit slow this year?
Stay over there Ma'a - suck up a few more of those spare Euros!
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@tim said in NH club rugby:
@chris-b said in NH club rugby:
Comic book sales a bit slow this year?
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Wiki tells me the owner of the club, Mourad Boudjellal, is the proprietor of comic publisher Soleil Productions.
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On the subject of costs, I was perusing the Exeter Chiefs website and counted up the numbers in their squad. That is squad, not including academy players. 59 blokes. I'm not sure about how things are for you guys in the SH but that seems a lot to me. The Chiefs are one of the few Aviva Premiership sides to turn a profit too but that has to be one hell of a salary bill.
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Watched that Leinster/Glasgow game last night. James Lowe looks to have fitted in well and has added a bit of creativity down the flank. One attack was looking very Chiefs like but then he forgot it wasn't DMac and co he was with and made one pass too many. They all looked to have lifted their unstructured play around him though and I'm not knocking skill levels just instinct.
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@crucial said in NH club rugby:
Watched that Leinster/Glasgow game last night. James Lowe looks to have fitted in well and has added a bit of creativity down the flank. One attack was looking very Chiefs like but then he forgot it wasn't DMac and co he was with and made one pass too many. They all looked to have lifted their unstructured play around him though and I'm not knocking skill levels just instinct.
Lowe is making a good impression with coaches and players. Lancaster says he’s focusing on his defence - a work in progress and the main point of criticism to date. Only 2 NZ/Aus players allowed in European squads so it remains a toss-up between Lowe and Gibson-Park as to who gets picked. Nick McCarthy is coming up the rails steadily as backup to Luke McGrath as is James Ryan to partner Toner instead of Fardy so choice should be more flexible next season.
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