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    replied to kev on last edited by taniwharugby
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    @kev I guess they have all the metrics to see where, how, when fans are engaging and as we moved from paper to email to Web they are moving to social media more and more, supposedly how the consumers want it?

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    @taniwharugby said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:

    @kev I guess they have all the metrics to see where, how, when fans are engaging and as we moved from paper to email to Web they are moving to social media more and more, supposedly how the consumers want it?

    Well yeah I guess if you serve up a terrible website you're definitely not going to get much traffic there to make it seem worthwhile.

    Hard to guage the value of the engagement on social media too maybe?

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    @Bones I have no idea really, but know there is all that crap in the background...but yea a poor website will force people to look elsewhere, then they get some or most of what they want (or they they think we want) via SM, no point going back to the poor website....

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    you definitely need the website too, for ticket and merch sales at very least....but more than that the socials arent the best a for actual press statements or articles...and if we're trying to push the unions as these institutions then there should be history etc

    relying purely on a social media page is so amateurish...its was a club rugby side would do

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    Wow this looks a lot worse than the Silver Lake deal, from the limits in this article

    Colin Newboult  /  Oct 14, 2024  /  South Africa

    Springboks: 'Several red flags' raised as SA Rugby risk losing crucial rights in $75m private equity deal

    Springboks: 'Several red flags' raised as SA Rugby risk losing crucial rights in $75m private equity deal

    SA Rugby will hand over control of the Springboks’ commercial rights to private equity company Ackerley Sports Group (ASG), according to a report.

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    Huh. less than a year.

    All Blacks, Rugby, Sport

    Top NZ Rugby commercial boss leaves after one year in job

    Top NZ Rugby commercial boss leaves after one year in job

    New Zealand Rugby has lost one of its biggest names.

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    That seems like a massive L for NZR.

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    @Wurzel I just can't imagine he was the sticking point and NZR had a bunch of brilliant ideas and wanted a rapid rollout of the new strategy.

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    @Wurzel said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:

    That seems like a massive L for NZR.

    no no, he couldn't work with NZR and obviously identified the need for more change than they were willing to provide.

    So ... yes?

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    Liam Napier talked about this departure on the Rugby Direct podcast. Sounds like there were big conflicts between senior people, and consultants were brought in but couldn't mitigate them.

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    According to today's Herald:

    In the meantime, Silver Lake will start taking an annual $20m plus dividend from next year. In perpetuity.

    New broadcast deal with Sky is being negotiated now and is expected to be smaller?

    Yikes.

    All Blacks, Rugby, Sport

    Sports Insider: Time to draw a line under Silver Lake shambles

    Sports Insider: Time to draw a line under Silver Lake shambles

    OPINION: 'I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.'

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    in my experience people who say "I hate to say I told you so" invariably want to.

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    @nostrildamus said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:

    in my experience people who say "I hate to say I told you so" invariably want to.

    These guys deserve it though.
    What an ill conceived idea.

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    @gt12 said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:

    @nostrildamus said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:

    in my experience people who say "I hate to say I told you so" invariably want to.

    These guys deserve it though.
    What an ill conceived idea.

    Yes I had earlier read the coach's slam dunk of them and thought this sounds like crap (i.e. I instantly believed him) but I don't imagine the bigwigs at NZR will address it directly. Perhaps there is another side to the story (although the facts look damning). If not, those standing again should be named and forced to explain. The story of large chunks of the promised money disappearing to sweeten people over to voting yes sounds all too likely..

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    @nzzp I didn't know Craig Fenton was doing that job. His reputation in the UK when he was Google and Accenture was excellent, especially around being open, plain-spoken and forward-thinking. A big loss!

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    @sparky said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:

    especially around being open, plain-spoken and forward-thinking.

    I can see why he had issues with NZR then

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    @KiwiMurph I remember he and Anton Oliver did a YouTube video together during one of the UK Covid lockdowns where they talked about their vision for NZ Rugby, which was to be constant innovators. I am not surprised that rubbed badly against some of the "head in the sand" brigade who currently rule the roost. Sad!

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him return to London to a highly paid and highly influential job.

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    @sparky said in Silver Lake buying a stake in the ABs?:

    @KiwiMurph I remember he and Anton Oliver did a YouTube video together during one of the UK Covid lockdowns where they talked about their vision for NZ Rugby, which was to be constant innovators. I am not surprised that rubbed badly against some of the "head in the sand" brigade who currently rule the roost. Sad!

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him return to London to a highly paid and highly influential job.

    Provincial unions are the antithesis of innovation

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    @Machpants I suspect that is it. Fenton's come in with big words, lots of corporate connections and talk of change and it's frightened the hell out of the provisional unions and super franchises who want continuity. He's been given the devil's job of trying to negotiate a better TV deal for SuperSnore and it's all gone pair-shaped.

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