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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

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    @Canerbry It's a hot field of over-rated players, but he's right up there.

    But @Canerbry is right. Unless things drastically change RM will be one of the top two 10s.

    I am more concerned about Frizzel.

    I'd be very happy with Mo'unga on the bench, but I believe McKenzie is already the better player and will keep getting better. If he wants to come back to sit on the bench then that would be great as we do not have good depth at 10 - particularly for the style we are trying to play. 15 minutes at the end of games he would probably cause some problems for tiring defenders with his running game.

    Frizzell played his best ever test last year, and we lack big 6s - which I guess is their thinking? If it were me, no way would I be throwing any money his way.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Canerbry It's a hot field of over-rated players, but he's right up there.

    But @Canerbry is right. Unless things drastically change RM will be one of the top two 10s.

    I am more concerned about Frizzel.

    Concerned he'd be walk straight back in?

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    I find with Dmac all the creation is on his shoulders , his 12 and 13 are not great passes of the ball into space or holes so its up to Dmac to put them through as well as his wingers.
    Traditionally we always had one of the centres that could play-make and the other smash bodies

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    @nostrildamus It will be surprising if Richie is back for next year's SuperRugby season. What is the news on Shannon?

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Canerbry It's a hot field of over-rated players, but he's right up there.

    But @Canerbry is right. Unless things drastically change RM will be one of the top two 10s.

    I am more concerned about Frizzel.

    Concerned he'd be walk straight back in?

    Yep. He will add depth and that's nothing to sniff at, but we have alternatives to Frizzell that are just as good, if not better.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Canerbry It's a hot field of over-rated players, but he's right up there.

    But @Canerbry is right. Unless things drastically change RM will be one of the top two 10s.

    I am more concerned about Frizzel.

    Concerned he'd be walk straight back in?

    Yep. He will add depth and that's nothing to sniff at, but we have alternatives to Frizzell that are just as good, if not better.

    Depth is fine, as long as they don't pay him superstar money to get him back in the fold

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Canerbry It's a hot field of over-rated players, but he's right up there.

    But @Canerbry is right. Unless things drastically change RM will be one of the top two 10s.

    I am more concerned about Frizzel.

    Concerned he'd be walk straight back in?

    Yep. He will add depth and that's nothing to sniff at, but we have alternatives to Frizzell that are just as good, if not better.

    I'm no massive fan of Luke Jacobsen, but I think he's just as good, if not better than Frizzell.

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    I'm guessing the team will be something like:

    Ofa T, Bell, Tosi, Darry, Lord, Finau, Blackadder; Jacobson (C), Roigard, Perofeta, Telea, Tupaea, Proctor, Narawa, Love

    Eklund, Numia, Renata, Holland, Sotutu, Hotham, Plummer, Havili

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    @sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:

    I'm guessing the team will be something like:

    Ofa T, Bell, Tosi, Darry, Lord, Finau, Blackadder; Jacobson (C), Roigard, Perofeta, Telea, Tupaea, Proctor, Narawa, Love

    Eklund, Numia, Renata, Holland, Sotutu, Holland, Plummer, Havili

    I don't think Razor is that adventurous, for starters Jordie will play and be C. I reckon there will be a fair few first choice players

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    I'm expecting only the likely starters against England to go there early. There are plenty of reserves and some others like Papalii who need time on the field.

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    I thought I read he said up to 6 AB XV players to play Japan?
    It's not like we are a well-oiled machine, and with a team like that you'd achieve nothing really. You could roll that out for Italy, but Japan is our warm-up.
    Would be good to see the guys with limited starting experience like Jordan at 15 get more time. And then to try a few combinations for shit that hasn't been working well or needs a run e.g: Roigard - Mckenzie, Jordie - Proctor (or ALB - Ioane), and - someone other than Cane at 7 and some one other than Ardie at 8.

    Robertson won't do what I want though, no matter how many times I say it on here - hard to believe really, pretty arrogant of him.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Japan:

    I thought I read he said up to 6 AB XV players to play Japan?
    It's not like we are a well-oiled machine, and with a team like that you'd achieve nothing really. You could roll that out for Italy, but Japan is our warm-up.
    Would be good to see the guys with limited starting experience like Jordan at 15 get more time. And then to try a few combinations for shit that hasn't been working well or needs a run e.g: Roigard - Mckenzie, Jordie - Proctor (or ALB - Ioane), and - someone other than Cane at 7 and some one other than Ardie at 8.

    Robertson won't do what I want though, no matter how many times I say it on here - hard to believe really, pretty arrogant of him.

    Sounds like Fozzie when he rolled all the subs out to start against Aussie in Dunedin. But he has three tough games in three weeks. I can't see him playing the same team in all three

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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Japan:

    I can't see him playing the same team in all three

    Razor: hold my beer

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    @pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:

    If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:

    Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta

    I can still see IWL/Holland/Lord getting a run at lock, although for me Darry and Lord not TH locks.

    And Plummer makes sense if DMac and Beaudy kept on ice.

    Narewa is straight forward 14 insertion, but Reece may be given a run.

    Seems Jordie pencilled in to captain, injury permitting.

    Loosies are where there is plenty of room for conjecture.

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see Naitoa Ah Kuoi in this on the becnh, covers lock and blindside and definitely offers impact. If it works, proves useful for NH games

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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Canerbry It's a hot field of over-rated players, but he's right up there.

    But @Canerbry is right. Unless things drastically change RM will be one of the top two 10s.

    I am more concerned about Frizzel.

    Concerned he'd be walk straight back in?

    Yep. He will add depth and that's nothing to sniff at, but we have alternatives to Frizzell that are just as good, if not better.

    Depth is fine, as long as they don't pay him superstar money to get him back in the fold

    Or DMac says "fuck this shit, I'm off to do a Mounga"

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Japan:

    @Canerbry It's a hot field of over-rated players, but he's right up there.

    But @Canerbry is right. Unless things drastically change RM will be one of the top two 10s.

    I am more concerned about Frizzel.

    Concerned he'd be walk straight back in?

    Yep. He will add depth and that's nothing to sniff at, but we have alternatives to Frizzell that are just as good, if not better.

    Depth is fine, as long as they don't pay him superstar money to get him back in the fold

    Or DMac says "fuck this shit, I'm off to do a Mounga"

    DMac he has been given plenty of opportunities to make the first five spot his and will Have more over the next year.
    If he hasn’t by 2026 then he probably should go off shore,

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    @sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:

    I'm guessing the team will be something like:

    Ofa T, Bell, Tosi, Darry, Lord, Finau, Blackadder; Jacobson (C), Roigard, Perofeta, Telea, Tupaea, Proctor, Narawa, Love

    Eklund, Numia, Renata, Holland, Sotutu, Hotham, Plummer, Havili

    This is an AB Test match, not a ABXV tour game.

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    I don't think the top 23 will travel directly to England - maybe a dozen or so players. Some others need minutes before taking on England.

    I'm expecting a line-up of...

    1 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    2 Asafo Aumua**
    3 Pasilio Tosi
    4 Patrick Tuipulotu
    5 Sam Darry
    6 Ethan Blackadder**
    7 Dalton Papali'i
    8 Luke Jacobson
    9 Cam Roigard**
    10 Damian McKenzie**
    11 Mark Tele'a
    12 Jordie Barrett**
    13 Billy Proctor
    14 (Emoni Narawa)
    15 Ruben Love

    16 George Bell
    17 (George Bower)
    18 Fletcher Newell**
    19 (Josh Lord)
    20 Samipeni Finau
    21 TJ Perenara
    22 Stephen Perofeta
    23 David Havili

    () - ABs XV additions
    ** - top 23 players

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:

    I don't think the top 23 will travel directly to England - maybe a dozen or so players. Some others need minutes before taking on England.

    I'm expecting a line-up of...

    1 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    2 Asafo Aumua**
    3 Pasilio Tosi
    4 Patrick Tuipulotu
    5 Sam Darry
    6 Ethan Blackadder**
    7 Dalton Papali'i
    8 Luke Jacobson
    9 Cam Roigard**
    10 Damian McKenzie**
    11 Mark Tele'a
    12 Jordie Barrett**
    13 Billy Proctor
    14 (Emoni Narawa)
    15 Ruben Love

    16 George Bell
    17 (George Bower)
    18 Fletcher Newell**
    19 (Josh Lord)
    20 Samipeni Finau
    21 TJ Perenara
    22 Stephen Perofeta
    23 David Havili

    () - ABs XV additions
    ** - top 23 players

    That I reckon is a closer guess

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