All Blacks EOYT

[sparky]

Thinking about the EOYT tour what I really want is for the ABs to put together a statement performance against England, Ireland or France. Something similar to what Ted's ABs did in Paris in 2004.

[Kirwan]

@sparky That's back in the days where we picked our best players. Not the Robertson/Ryan way.

[Kirwan]

By the way, all the stupid shit written on this thread about Sotutu and Ioane reminds me of the days of rabid posters defending Mark Robinson being selected over Tana.

[reprobate]

@Kirwan I'm pretty vocally pro-Hoskins, but it's not quite that bad. The 8s are Savea and Sititi and both should be in the squad.
Now that Sititi has shown he can play flanker, Hoskins should definitely be in (again).

[African Monkey]

@Kirwan said in All Blacks EOYT:

By the way, all the stupid shit written on this thread about Sotutu and Ioane reminds me of the days of rabid posters defending Mark Robinson being selected over Tana.

I wasn't around then, but that's funny. We're they they same people who rated Caleb Ralph over Jonah?

[canefan]

@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks EOYT:

By the way, all the stupid shit written on this thread about Sotutu and Ioane reminds me of the days of rabid posters defending Mark Robinson being selected over Tana.

I wasn't around then, but that's funny. We're they they same people who rated Caleb Ralph over Jonah?

Now THAT was funny not funny 😆

[booboo]

@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

The same people calling for Plummer are largely the same people who think DMac is doing a perfectly fine job

No, am not calling for Plummer

[Kiwiwomble]

giving spots to guys that are primarily there to mentor does my head in.....you dont have to be in the playing squad to pass on your knowledge

[nostrildamus]

@reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:

Ioane leaving means no point in selecting him.

but they still selected Cane and TJP...

[reprobate]

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

@reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:

Ioane leaving means no point in selecting him.

but they still selected Cane and TJP...

and I wouldn't have - but there is a significant gap in their respective AB experience, especially Cane - so you can see the thinking (even if it's wrong).

[nostrildamus]

@reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

@reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:

Ioane leaving means no point in selecting him.

but they still selected Cane and TJP...

and I wouldn't have - but there is a significant gap in their respective AB experience, especially Cane - so you can see the thinking (even if it's wrong).

I'm just saying that isn't a hard and fast rule, and Ioane had 21 tests himself.

[dogmeat]

@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

Razor is still working out which players are best suited to his gameplan

Robertson has a game plan?

[dogmeat]

@sparky Thread digression but it illustrates the legend that is Lomu.

Listening to English football podcast and they (repeatedly) used Lomu as a metaphor for a fast powerful intimidating runner

[MN5]

@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks EOYT:

By the way, all the stupid shit written on this thread about Sotutu and Ioane reminds me of the days of rabid posters defending Mark Robinson being selected over Tana.

I wasn't around then, but that's funny. We're they they same people who rated Caleb Ralph over Jonah?

How the hell could you ?

Even Caleb’s mum said he sucked compared to Jonah

[African Monkey]

@MN5 said in All Blacks EOYT:

@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks EOYT:

By the way, all the stupid shit written on this thread about Sotutu and Ioane reminds me of the days of rabid posters defending Mark Robinson being selected over Tana.

I wasn't around then, but that's funny. We're they they same people who rated Caleb Ralph over Jonah?

How the hell could you ?

Even Caleb’s mum said he sucked compared to Jonah

Even Caleb Ralph himself said he sucked compared to Jonah.

[mariner4life]

It's funny how big a whipping boy Caleb has become. The way he is spoken about you would think he was rusted in to the jersey for a decade, and keeping generational talents out of the team. He played 14 tests in like 6 years. He did manage to score 9 tries in those 14 games too.

[African Monkey]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

It's funny how big a whipping boy Caleb has become. The way he is spoken about you would think he was rusted in to the jersey for a decade, and keeping generational talents out of the team. He played 14 tests in like 6 years. He did manage to score 9 tries in those 14 games too.

Yep, against Tonga, Canada, Italy and a 2002 version of Ireland.

[Kiwiwomble]

I remember thinking at the time that Justin marshall hung around longer than he should have, was playing past him prime….but can’t think of too many people since…until the last few years

[nzzp]

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks EOYT:

I remember thinking at the time that Justin marshall hung around longer than he should have, was playing past him prime….but can’t think of too many people since…until the last few years

Robin Brooke had a last tour up north in the late 90s and was well off the pace. Sad to see; felt a bit of a farewell pick at the time.

Exceptional player though

[frugby]

@brodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

Social media etiquette should not be a criteria for AB selection.

I don't think anyone said it should be. But think about it like this:

If you were a coach, and a player refused to answer a phone call explaining his non-selection, and went on to make a cryptic social media post moaning about it, would you be more or less likely to be inclined to select him in the future?