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    #6732

    Do I really not know what I'm watching or are journalists all adopting the walrus approach?

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    @antipodean ive felt for a long time that there is a big difference between what i enjoy and like watching, when i think a player is playing well....and what lots of other people do

    on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

    on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it

    i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.

    You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

    on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it

    i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.

    You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.

    There's always a delay of a few months to a year.

    I remember when Rieko was out of form around 2018, people were raving about him.

    Then when he actually started hitting form 2019, people were shitting on him for his past performances saying he's out of form.

    Rinse and repeat. People will start criticizing Beauden for his performances currently a year from now (at which point he'll probably be in form and unjustly criticized).

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    Some of these "journalists" keep banging the same drum about certain players. I've already mentioned a certain Stuff rugby journo who does the same about BB and Telea.

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    Reputation lag is a real thing

    Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

    Reputation lag is a real thing

    Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick

    2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.

    They are not here to inform.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

    They are not here to inform.

    Well they are really. They just don't.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

    on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it

    i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.

    You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.

    Funnily enough I was having that same chat about the NBA with a mate and how some people still think it's 2018 with players and how they won't move onto the next generation.

    But yeah, the BB love all of a sudden, interesting to say the least.

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    @Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

    They are not here to inform.

    Well they are really. They just don't.

    Our society has lots of 'meant to' without actual doing.

    We have some supposedly good journos / media types (hi @Smudge !) on here but sadly the standard across the board has the depth of a puddle.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

    Reputation lag is a real thing

    Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick

    2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.

    They are not here to inform.

    They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...

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    Yeah I remember BB being a bit of a whipping boy last year when the public wanted Stevenson selected , He was a Fozzie favourite apparently.

    Now they want him given the keys to the 10 jersey .

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

    Reputation lag is a real thing

    Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick

    2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.

    They are not here to inform.

    They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...

    I think our next "great" 10 isnt in the squad. Had high hopes for Ruben Love a few years back and even Zarn. I hope there is some young fella waiting in the wings because our incumbents arent up to much.

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    @Jet I hoped for more from Zarn, but at ten his kicking looks too slow.

    Still a hell of a player though

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    Jacomb looks the most promising to me.

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    AB's squad named at 2pm Monday for end of year tour.

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    I would like to see Papali'i back in the mix.

    Cane was pretty ordinary against the Wallabies and we lost both those Bok tests.

    I just don't get the appeal of Cane?

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    @brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

    @brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.

    A bit of a common flaw amongst AB loosies.

    Especially that guy Dalton Papalii

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    replied to MN5 on last edited by brodean
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    @MN5

    Papali'is top pace is nothing to sneer at.

    I recall Sititi making breaks but not being able to go all the way. He's very explosive and gets to top speed quickly but I doubt his top speed will take him all the way.

    No one was touching Papali'i on that intercept against England. Probably Savea is the only faster loosie in the squad.

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