All Blacks XV 2024
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@reprobate said in All Blacks XV 2024:
They all have ABs in their super teams. If you want to take Sam Cane etc as a mentor, don't take him in a playing role.
Not all Super Teams have a 100 Test opensides or 87 Test 9's playing with them, though. And playing internationals with a mix of players from SR franchises is very different and a step up from super rugby
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@reprobate said in All Blacks XV 2024:
They all have ABs in their super teams. If you want to take Sam Cane etc as a mentor, don't take him in a playing role.
Not all Super Teams have a 100 Test opensides or 87 Test 9's playing with them, though. And playing internationals with a mix of players from SR franchises is very different and a step up from super rugby
Very true, but every Super team has decent international experience, and if you look at the names being thrown around for this team, there is a solid amount of international experience in the playing group. Sure nobody of the Cane level, but enough that if you want him there it should be as non-playing mentor.
If it means a Lakai / Hotham / Fakatava misses out it would be a mistake. If they're going to select a Mitch Drummond / Tom Christie then TJ / Cane by comparison would have merit - but I think that whole path would be a mistake. -
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@reprobate said in All Blacks XV 2024:
They all have ABs in their super teams. If you want to take Sam Cane etc as a mentor, don't take him in a playing role.
Not all Super Teams have a 100 Test opensides or 87 Test 9's playing with them, though. And playing internationals with a mix of players from SR franchises is very different and a step up from super rugby
A big part is the attitude and detail in training, both Tj and Cane will be able to lead in that way - for all his errors TJ does the extras in training and Cane should be able to provide the detail and requirements to leaders. They t need to even play unless necessary
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Why would Cane or Perenara want to risk injury heading into a lucrative period in their careers to support a whole lot of up and comers.
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Why would Cane or Perenara want to risk injury heading into a lucrative period in their careers to support a whole lot of up and comers.
Leave the jersey better than you found it - exactly what you want to see from your senior leaders, exactly the example to set.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Pre-season for league 1 starts at the end of October. And the league itself starts just before Xmas (I think).
Pre-season matches start at the end of October - the pre-season training is well underway for anyone who isn't playing elsewhere.
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@pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Pre-season for league 1 starts at the end of October. And the league itself starts just before Xmas (I think).
That seems a real clash. Wonder what is the contractual position?
Need to be released for International Window but that is only 28th to 17th. However we don't know when Cane or TJ contract actually starts
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@Victor-Meldrew that’s not original thinking. Came is a very good 7 but you can’t make an argument for TJ. Has repeatedly shown a lack of leadership and rugby smarts. Wouldn’t want him near any young player
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@gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?
I say 100% or there will be a riot.
Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.
Both sides of the ball.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?
I say 100% or there will be a riot.
Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.
Also brought up in the other thread, Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July. So he should be in there unless he's subsequently done something to piss Razor off.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Brought up in the other thread, but what are the odds of Sotutu not being picked?
I say 100% or there will be a riot.
Certainly this place will be worth me using my favorite gif again.
But would Hoskins agree?
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@nzzp said in All Blacks XV 2024:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks XV 2024:
Razor said leaving out Sotutu was the hardest decision in July.
both sides of the mouth
As bad as Foster so far.