If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?
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Comparing Rassie with Robertson is logical if you're developing a team.
But Robertson isn't doing that - he's picking and using players with a limited shelf-life in games where the result isn't all that critical. And that's the big problem.
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@Frank Be confident and say it yourself if that's what you believe!
Havili - if they take five midfielders he'll be the fifth.
Christie - probably not.
Cane - for the past month it has looked an awful lot like they think he's still the best openside in New Zealand. What have you seen the makes you think they think someone else is better?
TJ - I wouldn't b surprised.
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@Chris-B said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Frank Be confident and say it yourself if that's what you believe!
Havili - if they take five midfielders he'll be the fifth.
Christie - probably not.
Cane - for the past month it has looked an awful lot like they think he's still the best openside in New Zealand. What have you seen the makes you think they think someone else is better?
TJ - I wouldn't b surprised.
Jesus I was joking.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Much, much better game today. More composure overall and less headless chicken stuff. Bench went much better.
Not breaking out any champagne though, It was pretty much a lost rubber game so perhaps that reduced any nerves and it was against a team ranked 10th
I was super nervous at the 30 minute mark
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11 Clarke 13 Proctor 14 Ioane 15 Jordan. It's not difficult
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@BerniesCorner The interesting call is Jordie Barrett or ALB at 12. Much though I admire Jordie's skills and talent, ALB gave a more composed performance today and made better decisions.
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@sparky Yeah they are both good on their day. Obviously frustrating we haven't seen Proctor outside them.
Ioane's a winger in my book.
The new guys have yet again come to the party. Williams and Tosi were magnificent today.
Vaai is a total nuisance to play against. Good stuff.
I would go Sititi 8, Savea super sub. Try Lakai at 7. Disappointing if Lakai doesn't make EOYT.
Bit frustrating seeing slower loose forwards and wings picked when other quicker options are available.
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@BerniesCorner Reiko Ioane's a world-class Wing, who can play Centre but it doesn't entirely suit his skill set.
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@sparky said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@BerniesCorner The interesting call is Jordie Barrett or ALB at 12. Much though I admire Jordie's skills and talent, ALB gave a more composed performance today and made better decisions.
I don't understand why they're used so differently though. Barrett is used to run straight and take out tacklers, then alongside him they use Ioane to run straight and take out tacklers. What gives?
ALB is asked to do a completely different job and I don't see why Barrett's skillset can't be used for the same thing (I mean fuck, he's a kicker too, but when do we see that).
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I didn't think I would be happy but yes I am
-most of the new talent look better value than the old guns
-the best current 10 question seems settled for me
-the potential of Jordan at 15 is clear
-ALB is making a stronger claim for 12 (they floated him around a bit, we have 2 solid 13 options IMO plus Big Leicester returning)
-Ratima Tosi Williams and Williams are stayers
-the skills gaps are clear
-our line defence and lineouts are improving
-we smashed our second-half voodoo (and the Wellington curse) -
Our propping depth is insane
We are not far off from clicking
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@BerniesCorner said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Our propping depth is insane
We are not far off from clicking
The Doommongery on here is insane.Just like we weren't far off clicking in the last 3 years.
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@Bones said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@BerniesCorner said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Our propping depth is insane
We are not far off from clicking
The Doommongery on here is insane.Just like we weren't far off clicking in the last 3 years.
Was that a common perception on here...?
Felt like everyone felt like the ABs were always shit (though less shit when Schmidt was involved).
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@Mr-Fish said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Bones said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@BerniesCorner said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
Our propping depth is insane
We are not far off from clicking
The Doommongery on here is insane.Just like we weren't far off clicking in the last 3 years.
Was that a common perception on here...?
Felt like everyone felt like the ABs were always shit (though less shit when Schmidt was involved).
If we could catch and/or pass we would've looked a helluva lot better...
Sounds familiar.
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@Frank said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Chris-B said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
@Frank Be confident and say it yourself if that's what you believe!
Havili - if they take five midfielders he'll be the fifth.
Christie - probably not.
Cane - for the past month it has looked an awful lot like they think he's still the best openside in New Zealand. What have you seen the makes you think they think someone else is better?
TJ - I wouldn't b surprised.
Jesus I was joking.
You're actually serious.Well, what does logic tell you?
On Cane - he's started the past four tests. The other specialist openside in the squad, Papali'i, has been available for three of them - but, hasn't even made the bench. That seems a very strange way to nurse Sam to his hundred caps to me. It looks to me that they think he's their number one openside - doesn't it? And if he is - it's a bit hard to see why they would suddenly drop him when they have three very tough tests to win.
On Havili - Razor told us that that they see him and Jordie as specialist 2nd fives, ALB can play both - and Rieko and Billy are specialist centres. The other specialist 2nd five is crocked and may be marginal for the start of the EOYT.
At the last selection waypoint, they picked Dave, and now he's played 10 minutes off the bench. The other contenders have been playing NPC.
Fern favourite, AJ Lam, has had a chunk of time injured and aside from that has, I believe, been playing centre - for a team that's struggling to make the top 8. Aside from which, he's spent most of his career playing wing - played maybe half a dozen Super games at 12. Carries strongly, but can he pass? can he kick? can he read an international offence? Rieko's been playing centre for about five years and half the Fern wants to shift him back to the wing because they still don't think he can do some of these things (though I have a suspicion that if Billy Proctor were to make a hash of centre, Rieko would suddenly become a much better player)! But I digress. My more likely candidate is Quinn Tupaea, but when Waikato played Ta$man the other week, Quinn was playing on the wing - so that doesn't bode well for him being promoted to be a test 2nd five.
I reckon Dave is sailing in clear air!
TJ's a bit more murky, bacause although they clearly prefer him to Hotham, they may well prefer Ratima and Roigard to TJ - in, which case, they might choose the development option - and take Hotham as their thyird halfback.
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@Chris-B said in If we win Bled 2, are you happy heading into the end of year tour?:
. It looks to me that they think he's their number one openside - doesn't it?
This contention that they nursed him to 100 is hilarious, and it would show up Razor as a coach if he's been playing a player he doesn't want for contractual reasons.
