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    African Monkey
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    Hmmm I heard Mo'unga was back in 2026.

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    DMac is signed with NZR and the Chiefs/Waikato for 2025. I doubt he would be granted an early release.

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    @stodders said in Exodus:

    @family-man DMac not going on the EOYT then. Wonder if that means Mo’unga is on his way back for 2025.

    I find it funny that a player that failed to win two World Cups is all of a sudden going to be our savior.

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    chucknz
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    @Canes4life Well if DMac leaves then Mo'unga certainly would be needed

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    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

    @stodders said in Exodus:

    @family-man DMac not going on the EOYT then. Wonder if that means Mo’unga is on his way back for 2025.

    I find it funny that a player that failed to win two World Cups is all of a sudden going to be our savior.

    Haven't read anyone say that. He might be a good pick for the Crusaders though.

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    @family-man said in Exodus:

    Just been told Damian McKenzie is going to be playing for La Rochelle

    If that is the case Plummer needs some time running the cutter against Aussie. We need to take stock now

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    george33
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    @family-man probably why Leon McDonald's bailed out.

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    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @family-man said in Exodus:

    Just been told Damian McKenzie is going to be playing for La Rochelle

    If that is the case Plummer needs some time running the cutter against Aussie. We need to take stock now

    100% if we are going to build depth we need to start giving guys minutes instead of persisting with players that are unlikely to feature at the next WC.

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    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @family-man said in Exodus:

    Just been told Damian McKenzie is going to be playing for La Rochelle

    If that is the case Plummer needs some time running the cutter against Aussie. We need to take stock now

    100% if we are going to build depth we need to start giving guys minutes instead of persisting with players that are unlikely to feature at the next WC.

    A few scrappy minutes here and there doesn't count either. Look at Rassie, he's giving his squad serious minutes and will reap the rewards

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    this feel like Dmac covering this options if they bring mounga back

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    @ploughboy he's only gone short period, 5 months

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    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

    @stodders said in Exodus:

    @family-man DMac not going on the EOYT then. Wonder if that means Mo’unga is on his way back for 2025.

    I find it funny that a player that failed to win two World Cups is all of a sudden going to be our savior.

    Its Ruby Love time.

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    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

    @stodders said in Exodus:

    @family-man DMac not going on the EOYT then. Wonder if that means Mo’unga is on his way back for 2025.

    I find it funny that a player that failed to win two World Cups is all of a sudden going to be our savior.

    Too many Crusaders-pilled pundits

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    ARHS
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    @george33 how the hell do details like that leak like this, knowing the current contract situation for DM and Mounga? If all this is true I don't blame anyone bailing on NZ Rugby under the current regime.

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    The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

    You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

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    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    @ARHS

    The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

    You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

    He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

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    @frugby said in Exodus:

    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    @ARHS

    The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

    You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

    He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

    I think that’s fair. But if everyone knows he’s only holding it by default, I’m not sure that inspires confidence.

    What I can say with 100% confidence is that I was at the WC final, and the Boks dealt with Mo’unga with relative ease - once Dmac came on and started using his direct play and passing they were having kittens. Despite the poor kicking by others and the RC, I maintain that if they’d brought Dmac on earlier we would have got home. His passing is the key to unlocking a rush D and we should be designing our attack around it.

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    @frugby said in Exodus:

    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    @ARHS

    The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

    You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

    He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

    except of course the moves to bring mounga home were in play before season started

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    @ploughboy said in Exodus:

    @frugby said in Exodus:

    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    @ARHS

    The AB coach and NZRU have made it clear that they want Mo’unga back.

    You can see why Dmac would look overseas. If I were him and knew I was inline to be 2nd choice, at his age I’d go cash in too. Essentially that’s what it seems Mo’unga has been able to do - get at least two high paying years overseas and seemingly hold his position in the ABs by default.

    He hardly holds it by default. Fact is the guy who has stepped into replace him hasn't stepped up enough to claim the jersey.

    except of course the moves to bring mounga home were in play before season started

    That doesn't mean they don't back McKenzie though. There is quite literally no other players in the country even close to an international level first five right now.

    Fact is, we are a DMac injury away from having BB back at 10, with Harry Plummer as his back up.

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    while I agree there aren't any options really outside Dmac if they don't give them a chance over next year or so we will never see if they have it. there are a few young fellas coming through without chasing I guy who has never really owned the poistion

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