Springboks vs All Blacks I
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@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Jet He called it a sledge so I presume the ref was struggling with TJ's accent and thought that he was calling one of the Springboks a twat.
Brace to TJ
‘I’m going to give you a clear message - insult me like that and you leave the field”
I find it extremely hard to believe Perenara insulted him. I guess we should've known from that point.
He either did which wasn’t picked up on Mix or Brace misheard him.
I find it hard to believe as well
Dollars to donuts it was a mishearing and he couldn't back down once he'd set his stall.
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Sad in a way.
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Nick Bishop felt Boks having three locks on at end (Nortje, PSDT and Eben) was very important for late maul tries: https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/rassie-erasmus-the-ultimate-high-stakes-gambler-goes-all-in-and-wins-big-again/
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@pakman thinking back we had Jerome K and Kieran Read in our loose forwards mix who were able to mix it with big boys. Now it’s Ardie and Ethan Blackadder. I got no doubts Ardie is an explosive power athlete, it just feels like we lack balance and power in that loose forward mix. I guess this is a broken record.
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@Boston-Boy said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman this is 3 years ago, I would think he’s still capable of this when given some room. -
Oh to bring him on at 60 this Saturday!
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@pakman possibly. But the ABs were getting pumped all day at the maul. They gave up penalties on the first three mauls and, from memory, 5/8 total bok mauls.
Your bench forwards largely got manhandled all over the rest of the park too.
Bj Dickson who started at blindside also happens to be a lock/blindside like Pstd so I wouldn’t read too much into that theory
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@Billy-Webb there was high tackles on Fat Frans and Kolisi. Kolisi indicate the obstruction in the All Blacks first non try. But hey, it's done and dusted.
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@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
From this clip all TJ appears to say to the ref is "whats that"....
No different really from jackalers shouting "Sir Sir Sir" "no release" calling for a penalty.
Dont mind him pinging it, but expect to see it every time.
That was a minimum 3 points for us that ended up a pen the other way.
That strikes me as a ref looking for a reason to penalise to impose his authoritay
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@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Jet He called it a sledge so I presume the ref was struggling with TJ's accent and thought that he was calling one of the Springboks a twat.
Brace to TJ
‘I’m going to give you a clear message - insult me like that and you leave the field”
I don't think that's what he said. I listened a couple of times with headphones. I have
TJ: 'what's that'Ref (after the whistle)
I'm going to give you a very clear message. Shout at me again and you're going to leave the field.I thought it was 'insult' - if so, ref arguably justified. But really? Reverse possession with a penalty for shouting -- and very justified. Clear penalty to the Blackness for a player rolling over the ball on teh wrong side, and int eh modern game it's approaching yellow card given the field position.
Very poor refereeing.
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@nzzp yeah that is absolutely appalling refereeing, he clearly isn't up to it if he can't control his emotions in that situation. That plus the knock on try should see him stood down for a period of time, that's just nowhere near good enough.
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I yearn for the glass jugs at the Fitz, PN.
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@No-Quarter said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nzzp yeah that is absolutely appalling refereeing, he clearly isn't up to it if he can't control his emotions in that situation. That plus the knock on try should see him stood down for a period of time, that's just nowhere near good enough.
Two best teams in the world and they schedule that mong. The game deserved better
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@African-Monkey said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
OK. Rewatched 60 to 75.
Blacks on top of Bomb Squad Boks from 60 - 63 when they get kickable penalty.
APPALLING OPTION. Take the kick. Over and game over. Miss and you get ball back.
Then we try Boks shift maul on them. WTF! We had edge in maul so KISS. A few phases and probably another pen or try.
They get lucky turnover and we try two Rieko specials, the second leading to another turnover.
WHY CHANGE A WINNING GAME?
That is where we took foot off throat.
That set move from the line-out was bizarre, I couldn't believe we tried it after the earlier success we had mauling from the top. I agree, that was the losing of the game, we should have buried them anyway never mind the Mbonabi try that shouldn't have stood.
We should blame ourselves for not finishing them off when we had the chance to against a decent, but overrated Boks outfit. Like, they're number 1, but no standout.
Yeah I agree with this completely, trying to get clever when we had the chance to bury the game was extremely poor decision making. We don't have the smarts that previous AB teams had under McCaw with the likes of Conrad Smith etc in the mix. The decision making in the final 15 minutes cost us a match we should never have lost, and this is becoming a theme this year; very poor decision making and execution at the business end of the match.
SA by contrast have the luxury of bringing on very experienced world class players that play a lot smarter.
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That moronic move won us the 2011 RWC
