Springboks vs All Blacks I
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@kev said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@reprobate said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Beauden Barrett was dogshit. Why a player with his experience gets a pass for brain dead kicks, not knowing whether its half time, kicks out on the full, kicking the ball away multiple times when chasing the game is beyond me. The saffa wasn't great, but he hardly needed to be to make team of the week.
The bench got criticised but when you look back at the poor exits, BB chip kicks, and the sin bin being cumulative, then it was the players that started who didn’t perform. The exception being Finau who just didn’t listen to ref.
The biggest work on is exits.
Beaudy's two chip kicks in the last two or three minutes were complete madness. You've just got to keep the ball in hand when time is pretty much up and you're chasing the game.
You regularly see teams able to snatch a win by keeping the ball in hand at the death. Speculative chip kicks are just such a low percentage option.
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@Billy-Tell said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Machpants said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
IMO we get much more out of this test than SA.😂
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@PN said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Machpants said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
IMO we get much more out of this test than SA.😂
All you got was a win at home and the Rugby Championship title. We got "learnings".
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@Smuts said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
You could entertain the possibility that I don’t care to trade points on whether the ref got this particular call right and have a reasonable argument that the rule is stupid
We all know he got it hopelessly wrong. It was in front of him, blatantly obvious and not this refereeing teams only howler. They simply weren't good enough to be in charge of a fixture between these two teams.
And the rule is reasonably clear and easy to adjudicate - the worst outcome I've seen lately is being forced to release a tackled player who then gets to flop unhindered across the try line.
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@antipodean there you go again about the officiating.
It’s a shit rule for players (and spectators.)
But it’s a worse rule the way it is officiated
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BB also kicked into touch on the full after taking the ball back, and on the stroke of half time didn't wait for the hooter before kicking into touch. He could have easily cost us more points. We nag him and then he goes and has a great game, like his salvation act vs England
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Look here’s two immutable facts that will hopefully move us all to next week’s second match thread
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Brace joins a long list of ‘blind, Irish referees’
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NZ, biggest choke since Michael Hutchence
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Look here’s two immutable facts that will hopefully move us all to next week’s second match thread
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Brace joins a long list of ‘blind, Irish referees’
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NZ, biggest choke since Michael Hutchence
Throwing out Hutchence to distract us from the fact Brace is Welsh isn't going to work.
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@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Look here’s two immutable facts that will hopefully move us all to next week’s second match thread
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Brace joins a long list of ‘blind, Irish referees’
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NZ, biggest choke since Michael Hutchence
Throwing out Hutchence to distract us from the fact Brace is Welsh isn't going to work.
Born in Wales and wants nothing to do with Wales
He’s made his bed -
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Look here’s two immutable facts that will hopefully move us all to next week’s second match thread
Are you new here?
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@Smuts said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Composite XV from starters: Nche, Taylor, Lomax, Barrett, Vaa’i, Cane, Du Toit, Wiese, Perenara, SFM, Barrett, Ioane, Clarke, Kolbe, Barrett.
No way 4/5 of the best starting front five were in black.
Your front row more or less held on - which I guess is enough to give them 2/3 frontrowers.
I didn’t notice Captain Barrett until Kolbe bounced him. I noticed Vaa’i playing like a TEMU knockoff Flavell. He’s helluva tough as long as he’s up against an outside back or when the other bloke’s defenceless.
Aside from the interception, Jordie was bang average. DDA made three ruck turnovers (two jackals and driving an AB over the touchline) but he did throw the intercept, didn’t add much in attack (though he wasn’t asked to really) and was a little at sea defensively when he moved out one spot.
Old Barrett was outplayed by Fassi. Comprehensively.
The ABs edged the lineout and starting pack had parity with starting pack in scrums. Boks starters got edge when bench player Etzebeth came on. Then AB starters edged bomb squad Boks in scrum. Ascendency continued when Ofa and Newell arrived, although only a couple of scrums.
Taylor and Lomax offered more around field than Mnonambi and Malherbe.
ABs handled Boks in maul, and hence 4 of 5 fatties with two Boks, although Du Toit selected at blindside.
Balance of starters also chimes with the dominance of ABs in first 60.
Preponderance of Boks on bench reflects the fact that, whilst the Bomb Squad got little change from AB starters, they were clearly superior to AB finishing pack.
Fassi’s yellow was an important factor for me.
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Look here’s two immutable facts that will hopefully move us all to next week’s second match thread
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Brace joins a long list of ‘blind, Irish referees’
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NZ, biggest choke since Michael Hutchence
Throwing out Hutchence to distract us from the fact Brace is Welsh isn't going to work.
Born in Wales and wants nothing to do with Wales
He’s made his bedSo the Welsh don't make their beds? Ok, got it!
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Look here’s two immutable facts that will hopefully move us all to next week’s second match thread
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Brace joins a long list of ‘blind, Irish referees’
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NZ, biggest choke since Michael Hutchence
- Not sure how he found the line.
- He wasn't Kiwi and the ABs were underdogs.
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Possessed!
Scott Robertson assesses ‘possessed’ All Black’s performance against Boks
‘Razor’ fronted the media on Sunday morning and was asked to assess Ethan Blackadder’s performance.
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This South Africa side are like England were in their golden era from 2001-3, super ruthless with smart players and leaders all over their squad. They are very tough to beat, especially at Ellis Park.
I take heart from the ABs performance and that it is so obvious now what needs fixing.
I also think it's going to be tough for the Boks to keep this standard up for many more years. Most of their leading forwards are in the 30s and I don't think they will all be there by the 2027 RWC.
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@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Taylor and Lomax offered more around field than Mnonambi and Malherbe.
I honestly believe Lomax is the best tighthead prop in the world at the moment. Springboks props tend to be overrated as their scrum has them benefit from having probably the strongest second rowers in the world.
P.S: trust me, I'm an expert in having expertise on stuff
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Look here’s two immutable facts that will hopefully move us all to next week’s second match thread
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Brace joins a long list of ‘blind, Irish referees’
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NZ, biggest choke since Michael Hutchence
Throwing out Hutchence to distract us from the fact Brace is Welsh isn't going to work.
Born in Wales and wants nothing to do with Wales
He’s made his bedSo the Welsh don't make their beds? Ok, got it!
Born in Cardiff, lived between Ireland and Wales. University in England.
Represented Belgium at international level.
Refs for Ireland.
Not our bed to make.
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@Tordah said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Taylor and Lomax offered more around field than Mnonambi and Malherbe.
I honestly believe Lomax is the best tighthead prop in the world at the moment. Springboks props tend to be overrated as their scrum has them benefit from having probably the strongest second rowers in the world.
P.S: trust me, I'm an expert in having expertise on stuff
I personally think Frans is excellent, but the match on Saturday showed that without the Etzebeth horsepower he’s containable. Nché is an excellent technical LH and maybe world’s best, and is now offering more around pitch.
Lomax is a big body and packs very straight, so is definitely right up there. Can’t think of any NH THs better.
