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  • HigginsH Offline
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    @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    @Chris Senz reporting Hansen from to attack, Ellision to defence, the roles they had at Crusaders under Razor. Since Leon isn't being replaced does this mean Ellison will travel to SA and stay with the All Blacks permanently? Surely he can't take that Crusaders HC gig now, he needs to commit to one role or else ABs will need a new defense coach in 2026...

    He can't anyway as Rob Penney is still the incumbent in that position, at least for now.

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    No, the point is Ellison is groomed to take over Crusaders in 2026, I'd rather he commit to ABs until 2027 World Cup so we're not facing more coaching changes... he is a good defense coach, highly rated - 3 titles with Crusaders as defense coach and Wellington's first title in 22 years as defence coach. Losing him from the AB setup would be a big blow. @Chris?

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    @Chris said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    It didn’t at the Crusaders and again it was 2 different coaching directions and thought patterns.

    On the field the Crusaders were terrific the one year Leon was assistant (2017). Was there murmurings of coaching clashes?

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    @KiwiMurph said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    @Chris said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    It didn’t at the Crusaders and again it was 2 different coaching directions and thought patterns.

    On the field the Crusaders were terrific the one year Leon was assistant (2017). Was there murmurings of coaching clashes?

    Yes I heard there was a clash

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    @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    No, the point is Ellison is groomed to take over Crusaders in 2026, I'd rather he commit to ABs until 2027 World Cup so we're not facing more coaching changes... he is a good defense coach, highly rated - 3 titles with Crusaders as defense coach and Wellington's first title in 22 years as defence coach. Losing him from the AB setup would be a big blow. @Chris?

    Looks like he will take a more permeant Role with the ABs
    You would think it would rule him out of a Full time SR role

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    Perofeta will be fuming at this news.

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    @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    No, the point is Ellison is groomed to take over Crusaders in 2026, I'd rather he commit to ABs until 2027 World Cup so we're not facing more coaching changes... he is a good defense coach, highly rated - 3 titles with Crusaders as defense coach and Wellington's first title in 22 years as defence coach. Losing him from the AB setup would be a big blow. @Chris?

    This post might bring a certain poster back from the Fern dead….

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    @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    "Hey Vern, Razor here. Have you got any plans for the next couple of weeks....?"

    Wouldn't the answer be something along the lines of: "not much, but you picked the wrong cattle so why bother calling me"?

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    The great thing about rugby is that you can find success with different philosophies / approaches, particularly from an attacking standpoint. And whilst the Crusaders had success back in 2017 what translated in the years thereafter was quite a different approach and there was still some success.

    I’m sure both Rangi and Razor (and the other coaches) are disappointed it didn’t work out but in an environment when every match counts and the spotlight is a thousand times brighter, there’s not really time to try and ‘work it out’.

    They are all pros and will be able to move on.

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    @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    I'll give Razor credit for pulling the trigger and essentially admitting his mistake, when jobs for the lads didn't seem to be working out

    Is that what it is though? Or do we see Holland walk when they get back from SA.... get rid of all those pesky guys that aren't his lads...

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    #100

    Prediction:

    Rangi won't be the last All Blacks assistant coach to get fired/walk this year.

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    @sparky said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Prediction:

    Rangi won't be the last All Blacks assistant coach to get fired/walk this year.

    Hopefully Holland does aswell…. purely for the fact he’s a dilbert and isn’t good enough to be in that role.

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    #103

    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    “Didn’t quite click”

    Leon is the reason Ardie hasn’t been selected at 2nd 5. Sounds like a good enough reason to part ways.

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    It will be interesting to see how and if the ABs' attack changes. Wonder what a Scott Hansen attack looks like.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    @W32 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Haven’t read the whole thread so excuse if it’s been covered, who is the defense coach? Was it McDonald ?

    Scott Hansen I believe is defence coach

    excellent. razor has fired the wrong coach

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    Too many Crusaders, not enough horses.

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    I wonder what the tipping point was?

    Was it when Leon said Breaking wasn't a proper Olympic sport?

    Or was it when he said Surfing shouldn't be in the Games either?

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    @nostrildamus said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    The timing is a bit weird.

    Early disagreement on backline for Boks?

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    Genuinely a concern that the coaching group is falling apart after only 5 tests. They have worked together before and I would hope of known what was expected promised etc. Not sure this is what we were sold.

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