All Blacks vs Argentina I
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@His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
It all seems too pally and collegiate
Good post
And especially agree with the above
Robertson had better right this ship and quickly. Hes lost a lot of goodwill by selecting lots of his Crusader mates (the bottom finishing NZ SRP team in case anyone has forgotten like Robertson). Even though he was asked in a interview and said he wouldn't do this but he can't help himself. He should have ensured he was totally beyond criticism on this front
Now he put himself in a position where he must win
So he needs to
Stop selecting his limited Crusader mates. Even not making 50/50 selection in a Crusaders favour to ensure he appears fair.
Change the selection process. It isn't working. It could have worked if he had better assistants but he hasn't -
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I think the biggest issue with the ABs tonight was their mental fortitude in those last 20 minutes -
That was supposed to be Robertson's forte, wasn't it? It seems to have gone backwards
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Aumua took a great time to throw so badly
No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.
Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.
Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.
Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.
No. One. Jumped.
What every line out
Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?
All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.
Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.
He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
Terrible performance like a lot of them
TJ, Jordie just really poor.
Drop them all useless.Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.
Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.
He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.
Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.
And I’ll get your eye patch.
Just face it, your favoured Cantab crew haven’t been up to scratch and you’re trying to blame everyone else. Typical from you.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Aumua took a great time to throw so badly
No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.
Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.
Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.
Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.
No. One. Jumped.
What every line out
Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?
All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.
Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.
He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
Terrible performance like a lot of them
TJ, Jordie just really poor.
Drop them all useless.Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.
Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.
He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.
Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.
And I’ll get your eye patch.
Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Most points the All Blacks have ever conceded in a Test match in New Zealand.
Against Argentina of all teams. Ouch, bad record for Razor to get early on.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Aumua took a great time to throw so badly
No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.
Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.
Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.
Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.
No. One. Jumped.
What every line out
Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?
All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.
Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.
He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
Terrible performance like a lot of them
TJ, Jordie just really poor.
Drop them all useless.Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.
Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.
He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.
Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.
And I’ll get your eye patch.
Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy
The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.
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@Winger said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
It all seems too pally and collegiate
Good post
And especially agree with the above
Robertson had better right this ship and quickly. Hes lost a lot of goodwill by selecting lots of his Crusader mates (the bottom finishing NZ SRP team in case anyone has forgotten like Robertson). Even though he was asked in a interview and said he wouldn't do this but he can't help himself. He should have ensured he was totally beyond criticism on this front
Now he put himself in a position where he must win
So he needs to
Stop selecting his limited Crusader mates. Even not making 50/50 selection in a Crusaders favour to ensure he appears fair.
Change the selection process. It isn't working. It could have worked if he had better assistants but he hasn'tWhat are you on about?
The players that shat the bed worst were from the Hurricanes.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I think the biggest issue with the ABs tonight was their mental fortitude in those last 20 minutes -
That was supposed to be Robertson's forte, wasn't it? It seems to have gone backwards
Was it? Genuine question, I don't remember that ever being given as a strength of his teams.
Regardless, not much he can do when it's the players out on the field. Could he have picked a different squad? Perhaps - but most of the experienced guys everyone is criticising for being out of form so a bit of a catch-22.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Aumua took a great time to throw so badly
No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.
Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.
Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.
Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.
No. One. Jumped.
What every line out
Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?
All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.
Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.
He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
Terrible performance like a lot of them
TJ, Jordie just really poor.
Drop them all useless.Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.
Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.
He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.
Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.
And I’ll get your eye patch.
Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy
The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.
Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.
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@Canerbry said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Winger said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
It all seems too pally and collegiate
Good post
And especially agree with the above
Robertson had better right this ship and quickly. Hes lost a lot of goodwill by selecting lots of his Crusader mates (the bottom finishing NZ SRP team in case anyone has forgotten like Robertson). Even though he was asked in a interview and said he wouldn't do this but he can't help himself. He should have ensured he was totally beyond criticism on this front
Now he put himself in a position where he must win
So he needs to
Stop selecting his limited Crusader mates. Even not making 50/50 selection in a Crusaders favour to ensure he appears fair.
Change the selection process. It isn't working. It could have worked if he had better assistants but he hasn'tWhat are you on about?
The players that shat the bed worst were from the Hurricanes.
Winger’s not wrong. The Crusaders are the most represented franchise in this squad yet they were by far the worst team this year. It’s not surprising the ABs are playing like them. Yes TJ, Jordie and Aumua at the end there weren’t good enough but neither were most of the other players on the park tonight. Blackadder was heavily outmuscled after all the talk about how good he is physically, Taylor was ineffective and was garbage in the two tests against England, Reece had just as many meltdowns as the Canes players tonight and Newell cocked up at scrum time in a pivotal moment in the game. But I forgot, Cantabs can’t do anything wrong. What a fucking joke.
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@Canerbry said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Winger said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
It all seems too pally and collegiate
Good post
And especially agree with the above
Robertson had better right this ship and quickly. Hes lost a lot of goodwill by selecting lots of his Crusader mates (the bottom finishing NZ SRP team in case anyone has forgotten like Robertson). Even though he was asked in a interview and said he wouldn't do this but he can't help himself. He should have ensured he was totally beyond criticism on this front
Now he put himself in a position where he must win
So he needs to
Stop selecting his limited Crusader mates. Even not making 50/50 selection in a Crusaders favour to ensure he appears fair.
Change the selection process. It isn't working. It could have worked if he had better assistants but he hasn'tWhat are you on about?
The players that shat the bed worst were from the Hurricanes.
100% correct
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Aumua took a great time to throw so badly
No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.
Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.
Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.
Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.
No. One. Jumped.
What every line out
Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?
All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.
Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.
He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
Terrible performance like a lot of them
TJ, Jordie just really poor.
Drop them all useless.Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.
Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.
He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.
Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.
And I’ll get your eye patch.
Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy
The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.
Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.
This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Aumua took a great time to throw so badly
No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.
Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.
Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.
Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.
No. One. Jumped.
What every line out
Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?
All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.
Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.
He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
Terrible performance like a lot of them
TJ, Jordie just really poor.
Drop them all useless.Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.
Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.
He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.
Hahaha Hang on I will go get your dummy for you.
And I’ll get your eye patch.
Hahaha it maybe right next to your dummy
The only one acting like a little baby is you. At least I can admit when Canes players are playing like arse. You can’t even admit anything which proves my point.
Come on mate chill out you hate criticism of canes players just admit it.
This is the most ‘pot calling the kettle black’ statement I’ve ever seen. I’ve literally just said the Canes players weren’t good enough tonight but still don’t see you guys admitting how woeful your players were aswell. It’s laughable.
Oh no I will admit every one was poor tonight the coaches the players the game plan the Captain was shit.
Very shit house effort I would not give anyone above a 6 for that effort,
But you get all twisted when a canes player gets critiqued in a way you don’t like. -
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Well, that was a fun game to watch, NPC-esque. Loose as, lots of points, plenty of open footy. Some sexy tries from both sides.
Congratulations Argentina, they played footy right from the word go, any time they had possession they attacked. And they tackled well all night, and put heat on every ruck. A great win.
Disappointing from us. Lots of helter skelter shit. Seems our plan is chaos ball, fast fast fast. It's not a very good plan. But it makes the selections make a lot more sense.
Interesting that our two best periods of play that led to two very nice tries looked very much like 2024 Blues. But just without their players.
Darry was fucking awesome. I'm interested to see Vaai catching strays when he was thr only player I saw actually hit anyone with any force. Blackadder worked really hard, but there isn't much outcome there. The other two loosies were shit.
Thr backline is seriously disjointed. And it's all a moment of individual brilliance that sparks things.
Oh god how bad were the bench forwards?? Sititi looks like what he is, an absolute rookie elevated ahead of his time. Aumua shat the bed. Lord was 18 steps down from darry. Yuck.
This was not good from us. Very yuck. I expect us to win next week, but that 23 in the Republic is in for a nasty nasty time
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@Duluth Robertson made the right noises there in the circumstances: praised the Argentinians, no excuses, owned the defeat, take the learnings and improve.
But there is no hiding that the selection, the game management and skill execution under pressure were all extremely poor.
