All Blacks vs Argentina I
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@W32 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
It appears Fozzie wasn’t the problem
Playing super rugby in test matches is the problem
Looking at how very poor both NZ and Australia were, I'd say Super Rugby is the problem.
Except that the team that won the comp is under represented, and play a totally different style to the ABs
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@W32 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
It appears Fozzie wasn’t the problem
I think getting the remnants of late hansen/foster out of the ABs is going to take longer than I'd hoped. But yeah, absolutely the same shit. The basic thing is our structure, what there is of it, sucks.
You know you not still blaming Hansen/Foster? Perhaps we have a problem with our players aren't quite good enough? That perhaps is has been the problem for a little while, the rest of world has caught up?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life I worked for WCC. I don't think the job market has changed that much in the last decade.
Ummmmmmm, this is not one of your finest posts bro.
Really good point.
Stay on topic please
We're talking about who attends rugby matches. Have another beer.
I think tonight speaks volumes.
Nothing to do with the job market though
Distinct lack of bureaucrats eh.
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Positives? Ratima looked quick, Darry looked ok… didn’t lose a scrum in the first half
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I think getting the remnants of late hansen/foster out of the ABs is going to take longer than I'd hoped.
It's a pity the coaching staff didn't keep the "lose the RWC Final by 1 point with 14 men" remnant...
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We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Anyone think the following were net positive?
Newell.
Reece.
Ethan.
ALB.
Savea.
Jordie.
TJP.Add Codie Taylor to that list. He was poor aswell.
DMac is an issue aswell, he’s too erratic still.
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Yuck. Three opensides doesn't work, especially when one is only there to inspect rucks and/or give away penalties.
Darry played well but Vaai is a non entity, missed Patch and Scooter.
Clarke would've made a difference and as well as Perenara played we need better distribution to get go forward, especially with such an unthreatening pack.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now
The games against South Africa, England away, Ireland and France are a big concern now. They could be very ugly if we persist with that side.
Hell, I'm even a worried now the Aussies might have a shot at the Bledisloe.
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Ouch
From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle
This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy
The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.
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Coaching brilliance brings on Rieko and Jordan with 15mins left and no opportunity to do anything because we keep giving away possession.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year
This. Last 15 minutes was worse than against Sth Africa at Twickenham - if that's even possible.
Is it just one forwards coach in charge or is it a committee of 3 or 4?
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Welcome to the pressure cooker of coaching the abs razor ,
This could get ugly quickly if he doesn’t turn it around
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now
Sadly, I’m old enough to remember a time when the ABs would never have lost that game, simply because they would be too scared to lose. Unfortunately mediocrity has become normal for this team. I had hoped for more from Razor’s appointment.
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Too many cooks in the kitchen, I suspect. And no mongrel in the pack.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year
This. Last 15 minutes was worse than against Sth Africa at Twickenham - if that's even possible.
Is it just one forwards coach in charge or is it a committee of 3 or 4?
Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row. Need a big 6, Blackadder is busy but ineffective. That miss off the scrum cost the game.
