Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.
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<p>Someone needs to tweet Gosper.</p>
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<p>Saint Brian has tried and failed. How could the Court of Public Opinion let us down so badly?</p>
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<p>I've briefly (and I stress briefly) looked at a still of the smoking gun grassy knoll reverse angle revealed today and it looks like most if not all of Franks' fingers are squeezing Douglas' temples, not digging into his baby blues.</p>
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<p>I just saw the clip of Phipps throwing Fekitoa's boot into the stand, the All Blacks completely own the Wallabies. That's all they've got to bring to the party gamesmanship and cheap shots. Looking forward to them being pumped by the Pumas. They will only lose fans carrying on with this rubbish.</p>
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<p>On the Franks facial, it doesn't look good and I don't know what he was thinking, there was no reaction at all from Douglas. But I think it should have been cited and pursued. All we're left with are questions.</p> -
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<p>Whats Coleman doing to Read here? Footage here <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://streamable.com/9ms8'>https://streamable.com/9ms8</a></p>
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<p>Next time I'm having breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, Damien MacKenzie and Joe Moody I'll ask them their thoughts.</p> -
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<p>Whats Coleman doing to Read here? Footage here <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://streamable.com/9ms8'>https://streamable.com/9ms8</a></p>
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<p>Next time I'm having breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, Damien MacKenzie and Joe Moody I'll ask them their thoughts.</p>
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<p>No wonder the wallabies were quiet about Franks.</p> -
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<p>couple of those blokes have fully gone off the deep end. Beautiful.</p>
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<br><p> :yes: I just had a look at the last five(ish) pages. Some of them have lost the plot, although there's not a lot new to be said by then I guess. It looked like 70 odd pages. Some others are making some reasonable points. I think they're South Africans.<br>
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<p>Just checked out GAGR. Reminds me of a certain forum when the AB's lose........</p>
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<br><p>Was the internet a thing back when... <br>
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<p>"Shiggins" is pure comedy over at that G&GR site.</p>
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Frank's should have been cited and shld be out for a few weeks. It's as simple as that. <br><br>
The north are going nuts, and rightly.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I just saw the clip of Phipps throwing Fekitoa's boot into the stand, the All Blacks completely own the Wallabies. That's all they've got to bring to the party gamesmanship and cheap shots. Looking forward to them being pumped by the Pumas. They will only lose fans carrying on with this rubbish.</p>
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<p>On the Franks facial, it doesn't look good and I don't know what he was thinking, there was no reaction at all from Douglas. But I think it should have been cited and pursued. All we're left with are questions.</p>
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<p>There is no remaining question - the process* used to investigate if there is anything to investigate has been followed and a finding has been announced.</p>
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<p>* Comprising referee on the spot and looking at the play, linesman on the spot, video referee and SANZAR post game review. If the process is not to your liking then bang off a letter to SANZAR. It would have been preferable that you did so before the season commenced ... or did you only just now discover the process and decide you didn't like it for some reason?</p> -
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isn't there that time period it must be done within, like when a Frenchmen gouged McCaw in the RWC final, time had passed so no citing...<br><br>
I agree with all above, it looks very bad, and I think it aint gonna go away, these things need to be done by correct process (which by SANZAR rules, it has) rather than trial by social media</p></blockquote>
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<p>I heard 72 hours quoted over the weekend</p>
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<p>I read 12 hours in the NZ print media (Herald?) on Sunday.</p> -
<p>an eye for an eye?</p>
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<p>Whats Coleman doing to Read here? Footage here <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://streamable.com/9ms8'>https://streamable.com/9ms8</a></p>
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<p>Next time I'm having breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, Damien MacKenzie and Joe Moody I'll ask them their thoughts.</p>
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<p>Genuine question: is a facial illegal?</p>
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<p>The regulations do mention</p>
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<p>10.4(m) Contact with the Eye(s) or the Eye Area</p>
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<p>Franks does look to make contact with the 'Eye Area'.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.worldrugby.org/wr-resources/WorldRugbyDIR/Handbook/English/pubData/source/files/Regulation17.pdf'>http://www.worldrugby.org/wr-resources/WorldRugbyDIR/Handbook/English/pubData/source/files/Regulation17.pdf</a></p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="610537" data-time="1472453750"><p>
Genuine question: is a facial illegal?</p></blockquote>
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Relations with Aussie rugby seem to be heading South.<br><br>
It's gone rather Woodward05. And I think it's down to very similar reasons. Not enjoying the vitriole really.<br><br>
But I'll feed the beast.<br><br>
Listened to Devlin talikng to Mike Brewer this morning.<br><br>
"Mr Brewer" did make a rather telling comment towards the end of the interview that Moore's post match function speech was about 30s long and was rather sullen and petulant. Barely said anything. Boiled down to "I have to thanks coz I'm the Australian captain. So thanks".<br><br>
Apparently didn't acknowledge the opposition or officials. <br><br>
Hope Kearns calls him out on his "class".<br><br>
Links below. About 9 min 30s into second link.<br><br>
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.08.29-09.00.00-S.mp3<br><br>
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.08.29-09.15.00-S.mp3 -
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<p>Let me rephrase ... is it bannable?</p>
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<p>Yes. Lower end is 12 weeks according to that. Although I seem to remember some people getting shorter bans.</p> -
Do they still have after match functions?
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Do they still have after match functions?</p></blockquote>
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<p>Yes. Lower end is 12 weeks according to that. Although I seem to remember some people getting shorter bans.</p>
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<p>If you go to the page marked "271" of this document it has the recommendations for</p>
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<p>"Contact with the Eye(s) or the Eye Area"</p>
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<p>Low End - 12 weeks</p>
<p>Mid Range - 18 weeks</p>
<p>Top End - 24+ weeks</p>
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<p>Maximum Sanction - 208 weeks = 4 years. You'd need to skullfuck someone for that, surely? The only others on that level are Biting and Squirrels.</p>
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<p>The only ones higher are Physical Abuse of match official (Life), Threatening Words/Actions against a Match Official (260 weeks). Headbutt is 2 years max, and everything else is 1 year.</p>
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<p>Relations with Aussie rugby seem to be heading South.<br><br>
It's gone rather Woodward05. And I think it's down to very similar reasons. Not enjoying the vitriole really.<br><br>
But I'll feed the beast.<br><br>
Listened to Devlin talikng to Mike Brewer this morning.<br><br>
"Mr Brewer" did make a rather telling comment towards the end of the interview that <strong>Moore's post match function speech was about 30s long and was rather sullen and petulant. Barely said anything. Boiled down to "I have to thanks coz I'm the Australian captain. So thanks".<br><br>
Apparently didn't acknowledge the opposition or officials.</strong><br><br>
Hope Kearns calls him out on his "class".<br><br>
Links below. About 9 min 30s into second link.<br><br>
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.08.29-09.00.00-S.mp3<br><br>
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.08.29-09.15.00-S.mp3</p>
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<p>Oh dear. He's not learning real quick.</p>
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<p>I would prefer Stephen Moore stop, think, spend some time with Andrew Slack or Farr Hyphen Jones, and improve how he does the captain part of his job. Notwithstanding that, when I cast around I find there is no-one to replace him. Foley is the last man standing.</p>
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<p>The call is out over here to appoint Bono because he shook the referee's hand at the end of the match and on-one has ever done that before, ever. He will have already ordered a print from FoxSports to attach to his parliamentary résumé.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="610588" data-time="1472462802"><p>Yes. Lower end is 12 weeks according to that. Although I seem to remember some people getting shorter bans.</p></blockquote>
Wales prop Tomas Francis got an 8 week ban for a similar offence during the 6 nations vs England.<br>
Francis' actions looked a lot more clumsy & accidental though. Franks' seemed more calculated & deliberate looking at the footage. Only he knew if he meant it, if he did I hope he gets what's coming to him.<br>
Personally think it's the worst offence any player can inflict on a rugby pitch. Only happened to me once in 20 years of senior rugby, once was enough !
