Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.
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<p>Does Tom Bowman even remember Tom Bowman?</p>
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<p>I don't think so. He was getting interview once, and looked like perfect second row material: enormous, strong, dumb as a rock.</p>
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<p>I saw him play three great games: Christchurch in 1998, Australia A v Lions in 2001, and Australia A v Canada (live) in Parramatta the year after (from memory). </p> -
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<p>Just checked out GAGR. Reminds me of a certain forum when the AB's lose........</p>
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Having seen it from 2 angles, I think Franks should be suspended.<br><br>
Gouge or not you can't pull people's heads backwards by their eyelids.....<br><br>
The bent fingers in the reverse angle are damning.<br><br>
Should be bye bye Owen. <br><br>
Charlie F starting the rest of the 4 Nations, while we all prey Ofa T stays on the pine in 4 games v Saffa and Argies scrums.<br><br>
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<p>Disagree.</p>
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<p>At best it's a penalty. I'm always reticent to jump on a twitter/ reddit jerkathon on the basis of a single frame. I don't see why a player should be thrown under the bus to assuage the drooling retards. Is anyone having a cry about this?</p>
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<p>Poite should have immediately penalised Franks for playing the head of an opponent. Kane Douglas's lack of reaction to that as opposed to his clear annoyance at Franks applying pressure to his neck in the same maul is telling. So is that the Wallabies didn't refer it to the citing commissioner.</p>
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<p>Whatever happened, or did not happen, happened in front of the referee and he made that clear by giving a direction to Franks; and in front of a linesman standing on the other side to the referee. Neither saw reason to act. The video referee remained silent too.</p>
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<p>SANZAR, which runs the show, reviewed the whole match and stated there were no incidents in which it needed to intervene.</p>
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<p>Australian management had the opportunity to make a claim within 12 hours after the match and they did not. Douglas had the same opportunity and did not take it.</p>
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<p>In summary, the four independent elements in the system cranked over, did their job and powered down again. The supposedly aggrieved party, individual and collective, raised no issue.</p>
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<p>The Wallabies could have done something about the appalling, incompetent, awful, unskilled, biased, hateful refereeing. They could have scored lots of points and pushed any mistakes by the referee down the relevance scale. But they did not - they instead chose to play appalling, incompetent, awful, unskilled rugby.</p>
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<p>This has become Wallaby best practice - be sloppy then afterwards, like a mob of whinging sheilas, turn on the referee for being sloppy. In their opinion.</p>
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<p>The fans, especially those who have never been closer to a referee than the channel button on their TV remote, close in like seagulls on a chip, puffing out their widdle cheeks in exasperation, clenching their widdle fists in anger and scowling like Al Baxter because they have not forgiven what Loe did to Carozza (they hear the names from season to season and might have spotted the footage once on YouTube). There would have been five hundred posts on The Roar last week excusing the Wallabies and there will be double that this week, working themselves into a frenzy because it was everyone else's fault.</p>
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<p>Most of the angry little fellas could stand in an elevator, alone, for forty floors, with Richard Loe and be none the wiser. Or with Paul Carozza.</p> -
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<p>Someone needs to tweet Gosper.</p>
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<p>Saint Brian has tried and failed. How could the Court of Public Opinion let us down so badly?</p>
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<p>I've briefly (and I stress briefly) looked at a still of the smoking gun grassy knoll reverse angle revealed today and it looks like most if not all of Franks' fingers are squeezing Douglas' temples, not digging into his baby blues.</p>
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<p>I just saw the clip of Phipps throwing Fekitoa's boot into the stand, the All Blacks completely own the Wallabies. That's all they've got to bring to the party gamesmanship and cheap shots. Looking forward to them being pumped by the Pumas. They will only lose fans carrying on with this rubbish.</p>
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<p>On the Franks facial, it doesn't look good and I don't know what he was thinking, there was no reaction at all from Douglas. But I think it should have been cited and pursued. All we're left with are questions.</p> -
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<p>Whats Coleman doing to Read here? Footage here <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://streamable.com/9ms8'>https://streamable.com/9ms8</a></p>
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<p>Next time I'm having breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, Damien MacKenzie and Joe Moody I'll ask them their thoughts.</p> -
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<p>Whats Coleman doing to Read here? Footage here <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://streamable.com/9ms8'>https://streamable.com/9ms8</a></p>
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<p>Next time I'm having breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, Damien MacKenzie and Joe Moody I'll ask them their thoughts.</p>
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<p>No wonder the wallabies were quiet about Franks.</p> -
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<p>couple of those blokes have fully gone off the deep end. Beautiful.</p>
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<br><p> :yes: I just had a look at the last five(ish) pages. Some of them have lost the plot, although there's not a lot new to be said by then I guess. It looked like 70 odd pages. Some others are making some reasonable points. I think they're South Africans.<br>
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<p>Just checked out GAGR. Reminds me of a certain forum when the AB's lose........</p>
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<br><p>Was the internet a thing back when... <br>
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<p>"Shiggins" is pure comedy over at that G&GR site.</p>
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Frank's should have been cited and shld be out for a few weeks. It's as simple as that. <br><br>
The north are going nuts, and rightly.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I just saw the clip of Phipps throwing Fekitoa's boot into the stand, the All Blacks completely own the Wallabies. That's all they've got to bring to the party gamesmanship and cheap shots. Looking forward to them being pumped by the Pumas. They will only lose fans carrying on with this rubbish.</p>
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<p>On the Franks facial, it doesn't look good and I don't know what he was thinking, there was no reaction at all from Douglas. But I think it should have been cited and pursued. All we're left with are questions.</p>
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<p>There is no remaining question - the process* used to investigate if there is anything to investigate has been followed and a finding has been announced.</p>
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<p>* Comprising referee on the spot and looking at the play, linesman on the spot, video referee and SANZAR post game review. If the process is not to your liking then bang off a letter to SANZAR. It would have been preferable that you did so before the season commenced ... or did you only just now discover the process and decide you didn't like it for some reason?</p> -
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isn't there that time period it must be done within, like when a Frenchmen gouged McCaw in the RWC final, time had passed so no citing...<br><br>
I agree with all above, it looks very bad, and I think it aint gonna go away, these things need to be done by correct process (which by SANZAR rules, it has) rather than trial by social media</p></blockquote>
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<p>I heard 72 hours quoted over the weekend</p>
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<p>I read 12 hours in the NZ print media (Herald?) on Sunday.</p> -
<p>an eye for an eye?</p>
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<p>Whats Coleman doing to Read here? Footage here <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://streamable.com/9ms8'>https://streamable.com/9ms8</a></p>
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<p>Next time I'm having breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, Damien MacKenzie and Joe Moody I'll ask them their thoughts.</p>
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<p>Genuine question: is a facial illegal?</p>
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<p>The regulations do mention</p>
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<p>10.4(m) Contact with the Eye(s) or the Eye Area</p>
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<p>Franks does look to make contact with the 'Eye Area'.</p>
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Genuine question: is a facial illegal?</p></blockquote>
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Relations with Aussie rugby seem to be heading South.<br><br>
It's gone rather Woodward05. And I think it's down to very similar reasons. Not enjoying the vitriole really.<br><br>
But I'll feed the beast.<br><br>
Listened to Devlin talikng to Mike Brewer this morning.<br><br>
"Mr Brewer" did make a rather telling comment towards the end of the interview that Moore's post match function speech was about 30s long and was rather sullen and petulant. Barely said anything. Boiled down to "I have to thanks coz I'm the Australian captain. So thanks".<br><br>
Apparently didn't acknowledge the opposition or officials. <br><br>
Hope Kearns calls him out on his "class".<br><br>
Links below. About 9 min 30s into second link.<br><br>
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.08.29-09.00.00-S.mp3<br><br>
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<p>Let me rephrase ... is it bannable?</p>
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<p>Yes. Lower end is 12 weeks according to that. Although I seem to remember some people getting shorter bans.</p> -
Do they still have after match functions?
